At least the guns are okay

[One Brow]

Nope not fear. Not even close. It’s being realistic.

Yeah you’re right. We should just let kids with red flags just be kids.

I can read the fear emanating from that sentence.

It’s totally normal for kids the threaten school shooting or call in fake gun threats. Normal.

I certainly heard that a couple of times when I was a kid, from other kids. I don't know about "normal".

If you see something don’t say anything, remember they are just kids.

That's what they are, and any punishment/treatment/intervention needs to keep this in mind.

Kids just being kids…
“Okay so it’s been like 3-4 weeks since I got on my new antidepressants and they aren’t working but they’re suppose to by now so I have no hope in getting better so why not kill the losers at school.”

Again, something I used to hear from time to time when I was a teen.

I’m not advocating they just lock kids up for ever. Arresting the kid will not ruin their lives. I’m for putting them in programs to improve their mentality , physically and emotionally.

I think you underestimate the long-term effects of having an arrest on one's record. Also, Jones's kid is being arrested for terrorism; they may choose to try him as an adult.

 

[One Brow]

Extra kudos to you for using the correct pronoun. This is a would-be murderer of children and people are so worried about hurting his feelings that they use his preferred female descriptors. Eff that guy. The 19-year-old adult male with mental health issues was threatening to kill kids by shooting up a school. The last thing society should be doing with this guy is continuing to coddle his mental health issues for fear of offending him.

You confused Jones's son with another case.

 

[Eminence]

Extra kudos to you for using the correct pronoun. This is a would-be murderer of children and people are so worried about hurting his feelings that they use his preferred female descriptors. Eff that guy. The 19-year-old adult male with mental health issues was threatening to kill kids by shooting up a school. The last thing society should be doing with this guy is continuing to coddle his mental health issues for fear of offending him.

I was talking about the Florida kid (13 I think).

 

[gandalfe]

Beau is extremely p***ed off about this. The is kind of a master class in rhetoric, here.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiFxHAU453M

 

[Deleted member 365]

Beau is extremely p***ed off about this. The is kind of a master class is rhetoric, here.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiFxHAU453M

Very good. I’d just like to add that it’s not just happening in Tennessee. It’s happening in all red states. Florida, Texas, Utah, Wisconsin, Idaho, etc. Red states are telling women, young people, LGBTs, POC, “**** you, you don’t matter. Shut up and do as you’re told or else!” This is a war between multi-cultural democracy vs authoritarian fascism. Do we want a democracy that values different races, religions, and views or not? We’ll soon see what America wants to be in the next few election cycles.

Sadly, I think we’re headed towards something like the pre-civil rights era where red states repress women and minorities and threats and violence is used to squash dissent (we see that daily at school boards). Not that dissimilar from The Troubles in Northern Ireland. Not until Democrats have a sustained coalition that’ll blow the filibuster, pass much needed democratic reforms to eliminate gerrymandering and restore voting rights, and restore a sane Supreme Court (even if the VRA were restored today, it’d be struck down again by this fascist court). There’s just so much work to do. And we need some luck. We need more Americans to open up their hearts and minds to the 21st century. Too many have had their brains rotted out by racism and nostalgia for an American 1950s that just wasn’t ever that great anyway.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Beau is extremely p***ed off about this. The is kind of a master class is rhetoric, here.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiFxHAU453M

This is dumb. Beau states his understanding that his state does not have the votes to push through gun control, then says this act was to subvert democracy. Dumb. There is no need to subvert democracy on this issue because the majority are having their say. What these former reps who were just kicked out did was no different from the QAnon Shaman. If anything, what they did was worse because the QAnon Shaman didn't have a bullhorn. They improperly interrupted a schedule proceeding of a legislative body. The QAnon Shaman got years of prison for it and these former reps got kicked out of the assembly for it. I'd say the QAnon Shaman received much harsher treatment. The message of the legislature wasn't 'do as you are told' but rather 'do not act like toddlers throwing a tantrum when losing a vote'.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I think it’s interesting to see the desperation from the right. They’ve given up trying to persuade. They’ve given up on the marketplace of ideas. Aside from banning, bullying, gerrymandering, and suppressing, what do they stand for? What are they offering young people today? What are their solutions for inequality, division, and climate change? They’re just desperately clinging to power.

Bill Kristol isn’t exactly a liberal. But he put it perfectly:



View: https://twitter.com/billkristol/status/1644150641114206208?s=46&t=QT7YFlZ_IlHq81PpZAhKgw

 

[gandalfe]

I think it’s interesting to see the desperation from the right. They’ve given up trying to persuade. They’ve given up on the marketplace of ideas. Aside from banning, bullying, gerrymandering, and suppressing, what do they stand for? What are they offering young people today? What are their solutions for inequality, division, and climate change?

Guns. Guns are their answer. It was hating the blacks/Mexicans/queers, but that seems to have diminishing returns.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Guns. Guns are their answer. It was hating the blacks/Mexicans/queers, but that seems to have diminishing returns.

No wonder why they need to suppress votes and gerrymander the **** out of major cities. This is how TN is gerrymandered.



Reminds me a little bit like how SL county has been gerrymandered into 4 different districts to prevent any Democrat from winning:

 

[Gameface]

No wonder why they need to suppress votes and gerrymander the **** out of major cities. This is how TN is gerrymandered.

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Reminds me a little bit like how SL county has been gerrymandered into 4 different districts to prevent any Democrat from winning:
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I don't do the "both parties" thing often, but gerrymandering is NOT only a Republican game. If you oppose it, don't just call out Republicans for doing it.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I don't do the "both parties" thing often, but gerrymandering is NOT only a Republican game. If you oppose it, don't just call out Republicans for doing it.

Been advocating for independent commissions to draw up maps fairly for years. Thanks!

Good thoughts here.

Why do we allow state legislatures to draw up congressional maps? Won’t they just gerrymander them to help their own party? Some states have an independent commission drawing up the maps. HR1 would make every state delegate the drawing of congressional maps to independent commissions.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/five-ways-hr-1-would-transform-redistricting

 

[Gameface]

Been advocating for independent commissions to draw up maps fairly for years. Thanks!

The way you framed this in the post I responded to was that Republicans were horrible because of gerrymandering.

You're welcome!