Baton Rouge Police Killing a 37-year-old black man at point blank range

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'll stop talking to him then. That's beyond disgusting and horrific imho.

I definitely hyperboled it, but he basically feels that way for anything above petty crime.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I only want to know the truth, whatever that is. It is so easy to find "evidence" that fits your own bias and will give you the outcome you desire.

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Especially in today's media cycle. One person says something on twitter, it's get retweeted thousands of times, then some small news site runs with it and sometimes even big sites and "mainstream" media run with it without taking the time to fact check. Everyone wants views or they want to spread something that fits their views.

 

[JazzGal]

What are your thoughts on this? Does Giuliani raise some valid points? It's only a few mins long...

https://www.cbsnews.com/live/video/rudy-giuliani-talks-policing-protests/

While some of Giuliani's points are valid, they were not on point. For example, he spent most of the time talking about how blacks kill each other more than cops kill blacks. Yes, of course, just as whites kill whites more than cops kill whites, or whites kill blacks or blacks kill whites. What did that have to go with the conversation? No one is arguing that cops kill people more that non-cops kill each other.

Whenever any says "All Lives Matter" and that "Black Lives Matter" is racist, I am concerned. There is not an "only" in front of BLM. The BLM group does not seem to be saying that black lives matter more than anyone else's (I'm not speaking for them, but this is my perception), but many people respond as if they did. This seems to be the fallback position for the majority whenever a minority group expresses a sense of being discriminated against.

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[fishonjazz]

The US population is about 62% white, 12% black, 18% Hispanic, 6% Asian, 1% Native Amer., 2% 2 or more races

Ya I acknowledged that right in my post. Note the part of my post in parentheses.

Btw. I didn't really have a point or agenda with that post. (After all there are way more white people in the country than any other race) just found it interesting.

 

[Siro]

I definitely hyperboled it, but he basically feels that way for anything above petty crime.

How does he feel about Jews and homosexuals?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

"Ignore facts because website name"

If a website name was "JewsSuckNewsRoom.com" would you trust their news reporting on Jewish subjects?

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[Saint Cy of JFC]

While some of Giuliani's points are valid, they were not on point. For example, he spent most of the time talking about how blacks kill each other more than cops kill blacks. Yes, of course, just as whites kill whites more than cops kill whites, or whites kill blacks or blacks kill whites. What did that have to go with the conversation? No one is arguing that cops kill people more that non-cops kill each other.

Whenever any says "All Lives Matter" and that "Black Lives Matter" is racist, I am concerned. There is not an "only" in front of BLM. The BLM group does not seem to be saying that black lives matter more than anyone else's (I'm not speaking for them, but this is my perception), but many people respond as if they did. This seems to be the fallback position for the majority whenever a minority group expresses a sense of being discriminated against.

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Its like going to a breast cancer fundraiser and crying that they aren't talking about some other cancer.

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[Siro]

Oh my god, where do some of you get your "facts"?
"...black people commit a huge amount of the crimes compared to whites..."
"..blacks are about 10 times more likely to commit murder than whites..."
(yes, in this category, they are arrested a bit more frequently, but it's closer to a 1-1 ratio than anything)

View attachment 4867(click on the image for an enlarged view)

Here's a link to a chart from the FBI on arrest statistics by race
(for 2013, most recent available I guess)
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43

It shows that of all arrests for all crimes, approx. 69% are white and 28% are black and 3% other
(Hispanic is not listed as a race but as an ethnicity, if you go to the link and scroll to the left, it shows that approximately 16.6% are Hispanic/Latino and 83.4% are non-Hispanic/non-Latino. )
The image above breaks it down by type of crime.

Here's a link to the overview for all the statistical tables (they're also by geographical area, by population density and other categories):
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/persons-arrested/persons-arrested


also note:






The US population is about 62% white, 12% black, 18% Hispanic, 6% Asian, 1% Native Amer., 2% 2 or more races

https://kff.org/other/state-indicator/distribution-by-raceethnicity/#table
This Census Bureau LINK explains how race is defined.

I don't understand. Given your numbers, blacks are arrested more than twice as often as whites. Not 1:1.

 

[Boris]

While some of Giuliani's points are valid, they were not on point. For example, he spent most of the time talking about how blacks kill each other more than cops kill blacks. Yes, of course, just as whites kill whites more than cops kill whites, or whites kill blacks or blacks kill whites. What did that have to go with the conversation? No one is arguing that cops kill people more that non-cops kill each other.

Whenever any says "All Lives Matter" and that "Black Lives Matter" is racist, I am concerned. There is not an "only" in front of BLM. The BLM group does not seem to be saying that black lives matter more than anyone else's (I'm not speaking for them, but this is my perception), but many people respond as if they did. This seems to be the fallback position for the majority whenever a minority group expresses a sense of being discriminated against.

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Okay I get your reaction but I do not think you interpret Gulliani. He was mayor for a place that had high crime an he did a lot to solve it. Ask New Yorkers. All they care about in mayors is results. Not politics. Guilliani gave them reasonable, well thought out results.

Gulliani was not making point you are portraying. He was making the point that violence, an hence the deep seeded police actions, are the larger issue here. I agree with his sentiment entirely an wish we could solve this together.

 

[reignman40]

That's the root of all american gun related death problems. If he had no rights to carry a firearm this all situation would have never happened. Now every ****head has a gun and police is shooting anybody without hesitation because they are afraid of being shot every day they are doing their jobs. Your freedom for guns is rotting, stupid system which should be banished into history's oblivion long time ago.

Having said that the guy who pulled the trigger should never work as policeman again after he hopefully serves some hefty sentence and should have no right to own a gun. Knowing USA this is not going to happen and he will be a danger to society in the future as well. Retired idiot like him killed a guy in movie theatre arguing about texting.

https://www.cnn.com/2014/01/13/justice/florida-movie-theater-shooting/

Yeah that's it. Only the police should have guns to keep all if us in line.. hmm sounds like something that went on in the 1930's..

 

[The Midnight]

Can someone else comment on this? I think it's pretty obvious. Every single picture I have seen of Castile he has the same facial hair, a chinstrap into a mustache up to his time of death. The robber had a disconnected goatee. I'm not blind am I? Seems to be a low % chance Castille was this robber.

I don't think it's the same person ... if you look at the robber's hair above the ear, it's shaved off... whereas the guy who was shot, his hair is connected to the goatee.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I don't think it's the same person ... if you look at the robber's hair above the ear, it's shaved off... whereas the guy who was shot, his hair is connected to the goatee.

They both have a fade above the ear, the bottom picture just has a beard that attaches and the other doesnt.