You guys realize that BoJack Horseman has a thing for Zima, right? Just making sure we're all on the same page. ****'s getting trippy.
Gameface, bravo old chap. I have learned a lot from you. That graphic was helpful!
And to respond to LogGrad, I might have come out swinging in regard to your comment earlier. While I cannot offer an apology for my reaction to your post, for these always occur in spontaneous reaction to the stimluli that we perceive immediately and effortlessly, I take accountability for that one. I think I was a bit offended by your offhand reference to this thread ("best beers for bras or whatever"). That ticked me off a bit. Just wanna clear the air. And thanks for the wiki reference to transference. I know a bit about psychoanalytic language, and I think a better term to capture the essence of my inflammatory post would be "projection." I interpreted your above-referenced comment as a slight about people who drink beer, which I assumed was from a moral high ground (I don't know if you're LDS or what, but quite a few LDS folks exhibit a palpable disdain for people who drink alcohol. As a "non-member," that schtick has grown tired, and I don't really tolerate it too well). I think the point of me saying your post was passive-aggressive -- and why I offer the term projection here -- is that your separate thread seemed to spawn from a reaction to something you truly wish you could take part in, but are forbidden to partake, given the religious-moral code I prejudged you for having. The projection really seemed to come from your language in your poll: your position seemed clear, and I wasn't really struck with the impression that you really wanted to understand the "other" side's perspective. Again, please accept this effort to reconcile my misinterpretation. I meant what I said when I wrote, "No offense..."
Beer is terrific. Alcohol makes beer taste nice, but without a savvy undergirding, a ****ty beer is just ****ty, regardless the alcohol content (see: St. Ives, Colt 40, and other ***-tasting malt liquors). Especially for craft beers, there is a sense of ownership that the drinker can experience when that lovely liquid touches the lips: "Someone cared enough to make a delicious brew, hard-earned through myriad trials and errors, and it now blesses my tastebuds. Thank you, beer-Jesus for brewing for my sins."