Best Player Available ...Who's sliding down for the Jazz to take ?

[Coach Ellis]

I honestly think that you can get away with pairing Gobert and Favors to get you to the playoffs even if you have to go smaller once you get there.

5 - Gobert/Favors
4 - Lyles/Hayward
3 - Hayward/Hood
2 - Hood/Burks
1 - Exum/Mack

If everyone were healthy this past season, that's essentially what I'd expect to see from the Jazz in the playoffs. Getting rid of Favors would be a mistake unless you have s better option to replace him. His versatility and physicality are more valuable than his ability to shoot 3's.

 

[green]

I'm on board with Poetl. Tough for bigs to stay healthy for all 82 and we've seen Favors have back issues. I don't think Withey or Pleiss are decent backups. Draft Poetl and go after another wing via trade or free agency. Personally, I'd wouldn't mind DL trading for Gay.

A decent summer IMO would be Poetl, Gay and Teague. I'm in favor of Teague because I think Exum is going to take time to get back to 100%.

I've been saying this all summer. We need a starting PG, a starting wing and a backup big. Your plan gets Utah all three. I like.

 

[RandyForRubio]

The reason Love is useless right now is because he can't defend. Duncan couldn't help because he can't defend on the perimeter. Favors happens to be pretty damn good on the perimeter for a big guy, so we don't need to take him off the court.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Favors is a solid player. But take a look around the playoffs. Is there a place for Favors in these games? Kevin Love is a better all around offensive player, and he can't do anything. Even the great Tim Duncan was rendered practically useless against OKC.

If we didn't have Gobert, I would fight like hell to keep Favors. But we have to see the writing on the wall - Gobert and Favors together will not work in the playoffs. Teams will spread is out and attack us.

Now if Favors can develop consistent range, I would eat these words. Or if he starts using his God given size and athleticism to play with Tristan Thompson style heart, I would also eat my words. But until then, we are kidding ourselves.

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Favors is like a rich man's Tristan Thompson. That dude is killing the playoffs.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The reason Love is useless right now is because he can't defend. Duncan couldn't help because he can't defend on the perimeter. Favors happens to be pretty damn good on the perimeter for a big guy, so we don't need to take him off the court.

Love has actually been playing pretty solid defense lately. He is useless because Kyrie/Lebron are taking over the offense and he doesnt really have a place other than spot-up shooting, which wings can do just as well and he isnt imposing himself as much as he should on the glass.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

If we took him and he looks good to start the season, I think we would have to really think about trading Favors. 4 good bigs won't win you a title. We need wings. Lyles, Poeltl and Gobert is pretty well balanced.

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I don't really care TBH. I trust Lindsey enough that I think he'll pick the BPA. He's proven his drafting abilities.

Blah blah blah, hey guys, if Lyles can hit a few 3 pointers... OMG!..OMG! Did you guys see that?!!

Trade Favors!!! Lyles can be the future guy we need next to Gobert!

Oh, hey guys. Forget that stupid **** I just said. Only trade Favors if Lyles wants us to trade him.

Whoops! My bad. What I meant is, if Jazz draft a mother Furkan Rookie, such as Poetl, and he looks kinda good in the first 2 weeks, let's trade Favors. Der.

Lopo just got his smudging junk handed to him. That was pure poetry

Favors is a solid player. But take a look around the playoffs. Is there a place for Favors in these games? Kevin Love is a better all around offensive player, and he can't do anything. Even the great Tim Duncan was rendered practically useless against OKC.

If we didn't have Gobert, I would fight like hell to keep Favors. But we have to see the writing on the wall - Gobert and Favors together will not work in the playoffs. Teams will spread is out and attack us.

Now if Favors can develop consistent range, I would eat these words. Or if he starts using his God given size and athleticism to play with Tristan Thompson style heart, I would also eat my words. But until then, we are kidding ourselves.

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God, ur dense. Shut the hell up!!

 

[NAOS]

Favors is like a rich man's Tristan Thompson. That dude is killing the playoffs.

Thompson is a better offensive rebounder. And that's precisely how and why he's doing well. Favors would have a different impact.

In other words, bad comp, braugh.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Thompson is a better offensive rebounder. And that's precisely how and why he's doing well. Favors would have a different impact.

In other words, bad comp, braugh.

Damn, because someone is a better offensive rebounder means Favors cant also offensive rebound at a high level vs players. I bet playing next to Rudy Gobert makes it harder to offensive rebound than playing next to Kevin Love.

 

[NAOS]

Damn, because someone is a better offensive rebounder means Favors cant also offensive rebound at a high level vs players. I bet playing next to Rudy Gobert makes it harder to offensive rebound than playing next to Kevin Love.

wut? Who are you arguing with right now?

 

[gregbroncs]

I honestly think that you can get away with pairing Gobert and Favors to get you to the playoffs even if you have to go smaller once you get there.

5 - Gobert/Favors
4 - Lyles/Hayward
3 - Hayward/Hood
2 - Hood/Burks
1 - Exum/Mack

If everyone were healthy this past season, that's essentially what I'd expect to see from the Jazz in the playoffs. Getting rid of Favors would be a mistake unless you have s better option to replace him. His versatility and physicality are more valuable than his ability to shoot 3's.

I like the idea, but no way in hell should Gobert start over Favors in that scenario. Favors is the better player, and it's not all that close.

 

[LoPo]

Lopo just got his smudging junk handed to him. That was pure poetry

God, ur dense. Shut the hell up!!

Look kid, I could give two ****s about your opinion of my opinion. Why don't you have yours and piss off.

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[Jazz_junkie]

I'm on board with Poetl. Tough for bigs to stay healthy for all 82 and we've seen Favors have back issues. I don't think Withey or Pleiss are decent backups. Draft Poetl and go after another wing via trade or free agency. Personally, I'd wouldn't mind DL trading for Gay.

A decent summer IMO would be Poetl, Gay and Teague. I'm in favor of Teague because I think Exum is going to take time to get back to 100%.

How do you get Jakob at 12 if you trade for Teague and Gay? Just curious as I would assume 12 goes in a trade for one of them.

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[Coach Ellis]

I like the idea, but no way in hell should Gobert start over Favors in that scenario. Favors is the better player, and it's not all that close.

I wasn't necessarily suggesting that Gobert starts over Favors. More to point out that when you decide to go smaller, the Jazz have players who can shoot, pass and defend. You don't have to stay with the big lineup if you need to go smaller without having to sacrifice either player to the trade gods. They can co-exist. I was just highlighting who would play where in a smaller, more spaced out lineup. I'd actually start with both in the starting lineup like normal and then shift away towards the smaller lineups after Lyles comes in off the bench.