Beverley to Lakers for THT and Stanley Johnson

[Handlogten's Heros]

To make the Indiana deal less appealing. Not my argument just throwing it out there.

4th dimensional chess move. Lol

Why would he want to make that deal less appealing? Is it so he could step in and do the deal himself?

 

[KqWIN]

Oh its definitely more plausible and likely... I said as much. Just because there is a plausible explanation doesn't mean anything other than that is lol worthy. I think there is plenty of stuff to raise an eyebrow about here.

We can ignore everything else about this and simply ask about the timing... why now? Why in the middle of huge trade conversations would you take anything you might use off the table? Why for a middling trade return that many think was light?

I am likely wrong... but I don't think its lol wrong. I think its one unlikely but reasonable explanation.

Why now? What kind of question is that haha. Both teams wanted the deal that happened. Some people think it's light, some people think we got a good deal. That always happens. There are many deals that I don't think are equal.

The idea that the Jazz made a trade now to stall an IND trade as an IOU is pretty funny to me. I know we desperately want that WB deal. But no outsider would think that the Jazz made that trade as a down payment.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Couple other things... Rob Perez kinda tied it together...


View: https://twitter.com/WorldWideWob/status/1562650188602232834


Bev knew this deal was going down by 8/14... tie it in with Bev tweeting about KD holding everything up.

Works against my downpayment theory I think. So the timing may be irrelevant as we somewhat agreed to a deal a while ago...

 

[whatthe]

Why would he want to make that deal less appealing? Is it so he could step in and do the deal himself?

Yes. Danny is great on playing the long game.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Why now? What kind of question is that haha. Both teams wanted the deal that happened. Some people think it's light, some people think we got a good deal. That always happens. There are many deals that I don't think are equal.

The idea that the Jazz made a trade now to stall an IND trade as an IOU is pretty funny to me. I know we desperately want that WB deal. But no outsider would think that the Jazz made that trade as a down payment.

Its a relevant question haha lolz lmao.... teams regularly wait to do business until other deals are done. We are kind of in the middle of a big deal right now... so its fair to say why not wait.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Couple other things... Rob Perez kinda tied it together...


View: https://twitter.com/WorldWideWob/status/1562650188602232834

Bev knew this deal was going down by 8/14... tie it in with Bev tweeting about KD holding everything up.

Works against my downpayment theory I think. So the timing may be irrelevant as we somewhat agreed to a deal a while ago...

Why wait 10 extra days though?

 

[KqWIN]

Its a relevant question haha lolz lmao.... teams regularly wait to do business until other deals are done. We are kind of in the middle of a big deal right now... so its fair to say why not wait.

The other obvious answer is that the second deal doesn't exist, meaning LAL is taking the IND or not dealing with UTA at all. If your answer to why it hasn't happened yet is because UTA did this to stall a IND trade, that is just wishful thinking.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Oh my bad... they had planned to do the Russ deal with Indiana which is their preferred deal right? And THT was going to Indiana because they want him right? But LA decided to endanger their preferred deal by dealing THT to us now.

THT would be a possible salary filler or addition to any Russ trade.

The Jazz got the guy they seemed to want and made sure he didnt get dealt elsewhere.

Yes, this is much more plausible than a "down payment".

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Why wait 10 extra days though?

Because KD had to confirm he was staying in Brooklyn which made the Kyrie trade less plausible, so LA moved on.

That's why PB was being such a baby about Durant, because he was holding him up getting dealt to the Lakers.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Because KD had to confirm he was staying in Brooklyn which made the Kyrie trade less plausible, so LA moved on.

That's why PB was being such a baby about Durant, because he was holding him up getting dealt to the Lakers.

We have 15 players on the roster now. If we’re getting multiple pieces back from the Knicks we will have to move some guys in a 3-for-1 type of deal. I wonder what kind of deal is out there for that…

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The other obvious answer is that the second deal doesn't exist, meaning LAL is taking the IND or not dealing with UTA at all. If your answer to why it hasn't happened yet is because UTA did this to stall a IND trade, that is just wishful thinking.

I was referring to our business... like that whole Donovan Mitchell trade thing. Why wouldn't we wait to handle our other business?

They also have other bigger business I am sure it would have been preferable to take care of first...

The timing is curious and fair to question for both teams.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

THT would be a possible salary filler or addition to any Russ trade.

The Jazz got the guy they seemed to want and made sure he didnt get dealt elsewhere.

Yes, this is much more plausible than a "down payment".

Wut.... in the Russ trade there is already too much salary going out in almost every scenario. Filler? Jebus. THT's inclusion means it is harder to do the deal as you need like $60M in matching salary.