Bigger lost Jazz talent, Donyell Marshall or Shandon Anderson?

[Scorpjazz]

Quick initial reaction is that Shandon was a hindsight bigger mistake.
Anderson was primed and set up to be a breakout possible star with no pressure yet. He couldnt/wouldnt just wait, and flamed out fast.
Marshall possibly peaked at Utah, but didnt really fall off stat wise and did the same thing for a few more years.

 

[LogGrad98]

If Marshall could have gelled with Stock and Malone better, and just flowed into his role on the team, he could have been a Hornacek level difference maker. Dude could play all 3 front court spots (center in spot minutes depending on matchup), and was arguably one of the first "stretch-4's" seen in the wild. To me that was the bigger loss.

Shandon did what he should have, sold high. He was what he was due to the system, not due to his individual talents. The best talent anyone could have for playing on the Jazz in those days was effort, since Jerry had everything figured out and had 2 player-coaches on the floor, all the other guys really needed to do was understand their role and play hard and they would look like they were 2 tiers better than they really were. Shandon was the perfect example of this. But it was also the need of the player to subject himself to to his role that pushed a lot of good players away or made them not want to come here. Why play fewer minutes in the Stockton/Malone shadow when I can make the same money and get some real minutes and look like the big shot?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Marshall obviously as Anderson really wasnt that talented.

 

[infection]

I was more disappointed with Anderson leaving. It's interesting that he looked so good then but going back and at least looking at him on paper, I remember him more than the stats suggest. Regarding Marshall, he left as AK was rising and I felt it was okay to let him walk to let Kirilenko step up. I had thought the FO had the same thought but then they curiously went out and picked up Harpring, who had a long tenure with us an overall was decent, but I wasn't a fan of him and Bell being Jerry's pet players because a lot of their stupidity was overlooked.

Anyway, Marshall never was a three point shooter before or during his era here. It wasn't until after he left and particularly with the Cavs that he started increasing his attempts and percentage. In fact, I remember on the old JazzHoops message boards that the ongoing discussion about Marshall not being able to "spread the D" (it's funny all the clichés that come and go [you don't play defense with the top of your head, rim protector, to name a few]). With the rumors circling at the time of dealing Russell and Marshall for Van Horn, people were excited about Van Horn being able to spread the floor much more than Marshall.

I've also long held the stance that Anderson could have been the championship difference.

In 2000?

 

[Lakers_Slapper]

If Marshall could have gelled with Stock and Malone better, and just flowed into his role on the team, he could have been a Hornacek level difference maker. Dude could play all 3 front court spots (center in spot minutes depending on matchup), and was arguably one of the first "stretch-4's" seen in the wild. To me that was the bigger loss.

Shandon did what he should have, sold high. He was what he was due to the system, not due to his individual talents. The best talent anyone could have for playing on the Jazz in those days was effort, since Jerry had everything figured out and had 2 player-coaches on the floor, all the other guys really needed to do was understand their role and play hard and they would look like they were 2 tiers better than they really were. Shandon was the perfect example of this. But it was also the need of the player to subject himself to to his role that pushed a lot of good players away or made them not want to come here. Why play fewer minutes in the Stockton/Malone shadow when I can make the same money and get some real minutes and look like the big shot?

Exactly it. It shows you how even the decisions from the role players, can make or break a legacy. By choosing / chasing more money those guys became otherwise forgotten. If they had stayed faithful, their could have been championships involved.

 

[Hotdog]

Marshall.