Biggest Reason We Lost?

[Scorpjazz]

I think dominated is a bit harsh. He did still average over 18 a game & shot 52%. He didn't defense but wasn't horrible on offense. In fact was better than his season average for the 2 games in Utah. Millsap was much worse on offense than Jefferson. He shot 37% which is horrid for a player like him.

You are NOT allowed here to point out the obvious fact that Al was better than Sap this series. Al played against possibly the best PF EVER and did well. Sap played against...uh...yeah....You must, at all times, blame Al for each loss, and IF you cant find it in yourself to do so, then Blame Corbin, because obviously his team was equal or better than the Spurs but he made them play badly.

 

[Hipporippo]

I don't blame Corbin. The Jazz lost because we don't have any shooters on the wing to a) make shots, and b) make other plays possible. No one could get a lane to the basket.

This.

The jazz were just overmatched. Yes, we should not have been playing Howard. And, a Hayward like he was playing in April may have given us a chance to win one or two games. But, we had no business winning more than that.

Did anybody else notice that we got a MAJORITY of calls during game 4? It was like the league had passed down to the refs that they would like to see a game 5. Still, we couldn't win.

 

[northeast]

HIpporippo No that is incorrect.
Start with the fact that everytime the Jazz get close, a Spurs player flops and gets a foul.
Duncun, Gino, Parker, Neal all did this in game 4.

Jefferson rarely got a call on his many shots.
Millsap was fouled on that turnover late someone said.
Parker pushes off at will on offense and is never called for it.
The Spurs, especially Duncun push and bump a lot on defense before the shot and are rarely called for it.
There was a stretch late where the refs called a foul every time the Spurs drove. The jazz were not getting that on the other end like that.
Someone else mentioned the Spurs do a lot of moving screens.

The Spurs get away with a lot of stuff that everyone just accepts as normal, but the Jazz can't do those things without a call.

One thing I will give credit to the Spurs for, that the Jazz could learn from, is to bump the guy with the ball more before he goes into his shot, to get him offbalance and out of position. I am not sure that the Jazz could get away it, but they could try.

 

[northeast]

on fouls called:
the ratio of free throw attempts to 2 point shot attempts is a measure of how many calls each team got, with the higher number an indication of more calls.

For the Jazz , this was 35%.
For the Spurs, it was 58%.

 

[northeast]

I am really tired of hearing about how great the Spurs are.
If the games are called fair, they are not that great.

it will be interesting to see who the refs favor in the games between the Spurs, Thunder, and Heat, if they all get that far.
I suspect that those will be fairly called.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

on fouls called:
the ratio of free throw attempts to 2 point shot attempts is a measure of how many calls each team got, with the higher number an indication of more calls.

For the Jazz , this was 35%.
For the Spurs, it was 58%.

The Spurs did a better job of playing defense. They just packed the paint and held their arms straight up. Parker got a couple of questionable calls, but for the most part it as even. Stop whining.

 

[t.work]

You mean to tell me that the best offensive team in the league, with arguably the best power forward EVER and arguably the best coach in the NBA today, should have won this series? Utah, one of the youngest and poorest outside shooting teams in the league, along with a rookie (basically) head coach.. clearly the Jazz should have won this series.

If there's a team in the NBA that has Utah's number, it's the San Antonio Spurs. That team outshines Utah in almost every facet of the game. The only thing I think Utah does better, normally, is score the ball in the paint. The Spurs bigs made Utah's frontline (other than Favors) look amateur. Al Jefferson looked especially bad vs. Duncan. Duncan is one of the best big man defenders in the league so I'm not surprised. But yeah, San Antonio was THE last team that Utah wanted to see and you could tell.

 

[STdmvp]

https://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7904144

^ Pretty much sums it up.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Our offense lost us this series. You can all point to the fact that Al is an absolute defensive sieve (and he totally is), but that doesn't explain averaging 86 ppg in a series. Our offense, particularly our permitter shooting, was simply terrible. AS a result, the Spurs would clog the paint, and our paint-game was completely demolished. How Jefferson scored 26 tonight, I will never understand. Hayward averaging 45% from 3 would have changed this entire series, if he was attempting ~5 threes per game.

ding ding ding ding *rep*

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Just curious to see what we think was the single biggest factor that lead to our 4 game sweep. Obviously what you vote for isn't the only factor, but whatever you feel hurt the team the most.

I have to go with Hayward's shooting no show.

It hurts because I really expected him to have a series where he showed the nation that he was indeed worthy of a lottery pick and a guy who steps up in big moments. Instead, he laid egg after egg as the Spurs defense played pseudo-defense on his 3pt jump shots.

Edit* ****, forgot poll.

Can you not edit a poll in? This is a bigger fail than our playoff series.

Your usually pretty right on the money with your posts, but I have to disagree with you on this...

Even if Hayward had shot the ball well it well we still get beat 4-0.

Al sucked, and got manhandled by Duncan

Millsap was nowhere to be seen, and even got manhandled by the likes of Boris Diaw, quite pathetic actually. I'm surprised he's getting more of a pass for how he played in the series.

Favors performed as I expected him too. He played well at times, impacting the games with his defense and making some plays here and there on offense, but also making mistakes as young players often do.

Howard, yuk!! Nuff said there.

Burks didn't play very good defense. (See Favors for everything else.

Corbin why didn't you start Carroll. He shouldve played more.

Even if Hayward had been in peak form, we still get our asses handed to us. Tell me if I miss read your post, but it sounds like you put most of the blame on Hayward. I feel most of the blame should be on Al, Millsap, and Corbin, then Hayward, and Harris.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Your usually pretty right on the money with your posts, but I have to disagree with you on this...

Even if Hayward had shot the ball well it well we still get beat 4-0.

Al sucked, and got manhandled by Duncan

Millsap was nowhere to be seen, and even got manhandled by the likes of Boris Diaw, quite pathetic actually. I'm surprised he's getting more of a pass for how he played in the series.

Favors performed as I expected him too. He played well at times, impacting the games with his defense and making some plays here and there on offense, but also making mistakes as young players often do.

Howard, yuk!! Nuff said there.

Burks didn't play very good defense. (See Favors for everything else.

Corbin why didn't you start Carroll. He shouldve played more.

Even if Hayward had been in peak form, we still get our asses handed to us. Tell me if I miss read your post, but it sounds like you put most of the blame on Hayward. I feel most of the blame should be on Al, Millsap, and Corbin, then Hayward, and Harris.

What I'm trying to say is there was no one who really played to there level other then Favors no one else really played well.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

You are NOT allowed here to point out the obvious fact that Al was better than Sap this series. Al played against possibly the best PF EVER and did well. Sap played against...uh...yeah....You must, at all times, blame Al for each loss, and IF you cant find it in yourself to do so, then Blame Corbin, because obviously his team was equal or better than the Spurs but he made them play badly.

Millsap, Burks and Hayward combined shot 4/32. That's 12.5% people.

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