Bin Laden is dead

[Gameface]

Let's make this really simple, so that I might be able to play along. Iraq has had WMDs. Iraq has used WMDs against Iran in a war Iraq started. Iraq has used WMDs against their own unarmed civillians. Iraq had WMDs during the first Persian Gulf war. Part of Iraq's surrender agreement was to allow inspections to prove that they no longer had WMDs. Iraq impeded the inspections to the point that Clinton withdrew inspectors and enacted civilian-punishing sanctions on Iraq, leaving the question as to Iraq's possession of WMDs open for debate. Bush used the possibility of WMDs to "sell" the war to the U.S. public. We all bought it...hard. It wasn't Bush pushing an unwilling America to war with Iraq, it was the American people fully on-board and ready to march into Baghdad.

If Bush lied he did it by telling us exactly what we wanted to hear. Had Clinton doubled-down on the inspections the door to an invasion by Bush never would have been open.

 

[One Brow]

If Bush lied he did it by telling us exactly what we wanted to hear. Had Clinton doubled-down on the inspections the door to an invasion by Bush never would have been open.

I agree. I only wish to add: in the days leading up to the invasion, Iraq acceded to most of the demands of the insectors for WMDs, from what I recall. Bush told them to leave because he was invading anyhow.

 

[TheDude]

I agree. I only wish to add: in the days leading up to the invasion, Iraq acceded to most of the demands of the insectors for WMDs, from what I recall. Bush told them to leave because he was invading anyhow.

I believe Saddam said something along the lines of "You can bring inspectors in, but they're not searching anywhere they want."

 

[TroutBum]

I watched, "Loose Change" and, "An Inconvenient Truth." I also read Al Franken's book. Everything I read and watch is truth. Period.


Media > Your opinion > Science

 

[One Brow]

I believe Saddam said something along the lines of "You can bring inspectors in, but they're not searching anywhere they want."

The inspectors were already in. In the last few days for the invasion, Saddam was desperately trying to avoid it by, finally, complying with all the requirements. Bush apparently decided it was too little, too late.

 

[Chad Feldheimer]

White House releases Bin Laden photo:

 

[DutchJazzer]

T Osama bin Laden was assassinated under the authority of the President of the United States of America.

yes thats what i think about this. just the united hypocrisy of america. why not arrest him have him at a trial. innocent unti;l proven guilty fundamentals the US of A values right. yet he gest murdered and thrown in sea. it doenst matter if he killed 3000 people or not. israel atleast had the decency to take the nazi's alive and put them on a trial(eg eichman) if nazis who comited more than 3000 murders get a trial why doens't bin laden get one.

instead a group of thugs jsut kill on foreign soul get rid of the evidence. i mean maybe bin laden was shot in his back. put on his knees shot in the head from behind. there is no evidence. its at the bottom of the sea if we can believe them.

i'm not condoning what osama did.

so bring on the neg rep

 

[Scat]

yes thats what i think about this. just the united hypocrisy of america. why not arrest him have him at a trial. innocent unti;l proven guilty fundamentals the US of A values right. yet he gest murdered and thrown in sea. it doenst matter if he killed 3000 people or not. israel atleast had the decency to take the nazi's alive and put them on a trial(eg eichman) if nazis who comited more than 3000 murders get a trial why doens't bin laden get one.

instead a group of thugs jsut kill on foreign soul get rid of the evidence. i mean maybe bin laden was shot in his back. put on his knees shot in the head from behind. there is no evidence. its at the bottom of the sea if we can believe them.

i'm not condoning what osama did.

so bring on the neg rep

Frickin' Euro trash.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Frickin' Euro trash.

lol maybe i'm trash but i'm not a euro

 

[Bronco70]

yes thats what i think about this. just the united hypocrisy of america. why not arrest him have him at a trial. innocent unti;l proven guilty fundamentals the US of A values right. yet he gest murdered and thrown in sea. it doenst matter if he killed 3000 people or not. israel atleast had the decency to take the nazi's alive and put them on a trial(eg eichman) if nazis who comited more than 3000 murders get a trial why doens't bin laden get one.

This is brilliant, dutch.

I'm sure keeping OBL in custody would have been a logistic cakewalk. Easy like Sunday morning.

Oh, and comparing the transient leader of all Al-Qaeda to German military officers - also spot on.

Bravo.

 

[DutchJazzer]

This is brilliant, dutch.

I'm sure keeping OBL in custody would have been a logistic cakewalk. Easy like Sunday morning.

Oh, and comparing the transient leader of all Al-Qaeda to German military officers - also spot on.

Bravo.

they could have kept in on a submarine orAircraft carrier. in an undisclosed location broadcast the trial from there if they are concerned about security. so yes a logistical nightmare. but imho the right thing to do.

i know if it was broadcast that osama is at building x doing the trial some drugged out redneck will try to assassinate him. or whatever. or some terrorist cell will try to free him. but still the right thing to do is hold a trial. didnt osama (supposedly) commit(Or is the mastermindbehind) a crime on us soil. what happened to innocent until proven guilty. doenst he deserve a (fair) trial. isnt that what america stands for?

or because he isn't a us citizen he does not deserve a fair and speedy trial. what kind of legal precedent does this set. what if a foreign guy kills 30 people instead of 3000 will he get shot and burried at sea too.

what they did is outright MURDER. they even disposed of the evidence.
was osama armed did osama fight back if so he deserves to get shot.
you always should try to catch a criminal alive and unharmed if it does not interfere with other peoples safety/live. did they try that or did they just catch him shot him in the back of the head and dumped him at sea?

the way it should have gone try to catch him alive. give him a faur and speedy trial(i know a logistic nightmare but not impossible) then if guilty shoot him hang him electrocute him whatever. cremate his behind and dump it at sea or send it to space or whatever.

isnt that what America stands for?

they spend miollions of dollars on the so called war on terror. yet they dont have the money to keep osama at sea for a trial laywer etc? is america really that bankcrupt?


hope you guys understand where i'm comming from.

 

[DutchJazzer]

I'm sure keeping OBL in custody would have been a logistic cakewalk. Easy like Sunday morning.

so because something isn't gonna be a cakewalk don't attempt it? its hard getting out of bed at 6 in the morning going to work getting a measly paycheck in the morning. isnt it easier if i just con old ladies out of their money cus thats gonna be a cakewalk.


doing the wrong thing because the right thing is hard to do, is really ethically and morally despicable.