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The way I see freedom is that it does not place a burden on anyone else. Freedom is essentially a lack of restriction.

The kind of freedom you're talking about requires forcing people to provide things to people regardless of their own free will and at their expense.

How so? Please explain
 
How so? Please explain
The way I see freedom is that it does not place a burden on anyone else. Freedom is essentially a lack of restriction.

The kind of freedom you're talking about requires forcing people to provide things to people regardless of their own free will and at their expense.
 
How so? Please explain

I am forced to pay healthcare for people who are careless with their lives, i have NO CHOICE int he matter.

people have the freedom to smoke. i don't have the freedom to not get healthcare. would healthcare bankrupt me? NO IT WOULD not.

the government supplies free healthcare for those who cant afford it(paid by those who can)

dont u see the lack of freedom of choice in this situation?
 
I am forced to pay healthcare for people who are careless with their lives, i have NO CHOICE int he matter.

people have the freedom to smoke. i don't have the freedom to not get healthcare. would healthcare bankrupt me? NO IT WOULD not.

the government supplies free healthcare for those who cant afford it(paid by those who can)

dont u see the lack of freedom of choice in this situation?

I hate to break it to you, but if you purchase private health insurance through purely private insurance markets, you are still forced to pay healthcare for people who are careless with their lives. You have NO CHOICE in the matter.

If you purchase private auto insurance, you are still forced to pay for people who are careless drivers.

If you purchase private life insurance, you are still forced to pay for people to take dumb risks with their lives.
 
I hate to break it to you, but if you purchase private health insurance through purely private insurance markets, you are still forced to pay healthcare for people who are careless with their lives. You have NO CHOICE in the matter.

If you purchase private auto insurance, you are still forced to pay for people who are careless drivers.

If you purchase private life insurance, you are still forced to pay for people to take dumb risks with their lives.
with healthcare i have 0 choice. is that freedom?
i have to buy something that other think i need or is good for me. that is tyrany.

again point being goverments do not provide freedom(like thriller suggested). they take away freedom of choice(s).

am i restricitng someones personal freedom if i dont get healthisurance?

NO!

carinsurance is a different thing. cus if i get in an accident that is my fault. have to pay for other drivers. i might not be able to afford replacing the other guys car/health stuff. but by not having car insurance i i restrict on others freedom of property.


this is just a side note about freedom and liberty. and government
 
https://www.people-press.org/2015/05/04/multiple-causes-seen-for-baltimore-unrest/

Interesting poll results and graphics - take a look, I can't post the images right now

About six-in-ten (61%) say that “some people taking advantage of the situation to engage in criminal behavior” contributed a “great deal” to the unrest, while 56% say the same about tensions between the African-American community and the police.

However, majorities say all five factors mentioned in the survey – including anger over the death of Freddie Gray, poverty in some neighborhoods and the initial response by city officials – contributed at least a fair amount to the unrest...
 
Well, the 'solutions' you're proposing is simply telling them to 'toughen up'. Take a wild guess as to how effective this approach has been thus far.

I haven't proposed any solutions, Pearl Watson.


I propose the abolition of the existence of these ghettos in the most economically powerful nation in the world.

Sounds good. Put the bill up and let's abolish ghettos together. Simple as that. In fact, we'll go straight off your recent ethics and values 101 term paper for the solutions.


America's wealth doesnt mean **** if only a small percentage of its citizens reap its rewards that come with that status.

Yup. Only the extremely wealthy benefit from our ongoing technological revolution. Everyone else is clearly left behind.

You're sounding like a spoiled child again. Go buy some designer jeans and cry harder about this.



1) Capitalism isn't a US invention. Please quit appropriating it as such.

Putting words into other peoples mouths again, Pearl Watson? And you desperately want me to take you seriously...



2) the US couldn't give two **** about developing nations having most of their citizens living in abject poverty. All they care about is producing goods with the least amount of money for maximum profit generation
Ah, there it is again, your irrational hatred of all things USA driving your perspective. We clearly care about nothing more than profits. Save the world over and over, police the world, nuclear non-proliferation, billions upon billions in foreign aid, saving the world from downward spiraling trade wars by bearing the brunt end of it... it's all so we can increase profits! Mwahahaha!
 
I haven't proposed any solutions, Pearl Watson.

That's the tone your posts seem to be advocating for. If this isn't the case, then say so.




Sounds good. Put the bill up and let's abolish ghettos together. Simple as that. In fact, we'll go straight off your recent ethics and values 101 term paper for the solutions.

While it's impossible to say whether ghettos can be completely abolished or not, the pursuit of this ideal is the only way that we'll ever a) fix America's ghetto problem; and b) find out how close we can get to eliminating this problem.




Yup. Only the extremely wealthy benefit from our ongoing technological revolution. Everyone else is clearly left behind.

Yup, all socioeconomic strata benefit equally from technological advances. That's definitely true. Isn't it fun talking in absolutes? And you tell ME that I can't conduct conversations in a civil, constructive manner *shrugs shoulders*

You're sounding like a spoiled child again. Go buy some designer jeans and cry harder about this.

My goodness, what civil conversational skill you possess!





Putting words into other peoples mouths again, Pearl Watson? And you desperately want me to take you seriously...

When you conflate the terms US and Capitalism, that is the inaccurate implication it leaves. Either point out how US capitalism differs from capitalism in general, or take away the US for accuracy. As far as me desperately wanting you to take me seriously, that's simply untrue.



Ah, there it is again, your irrational hatred of all things USA driving your perspective.

Again, an inaccurate generalization. Suggesting that the US can improve does not mean I hate all things US. But of course, you only know how to converse in extremes.

We clearly care about nothing more than profits. Save the world over and over, police the world, nuclear non-proliferation, billions upon billions in foreign aid, saving the world from downward spiraling trade wars by bearing the brunt end of it... it's all so we can increase profits! Mwahahaha!

One of the biggest conflicts since the 2nd World War were the 1st and 2nd wars of Congo. Where were the billions of dollars in aid, an US intervention? Why intervene in Kosovo, a conflict were less than 5000 people died?

America's foreign diplomatic actions are all performed with a vested interest in advancing their econopolitical interests.
 
We'd be much better off if we told the UN to screw off, stopped giving aid to countries, and instead spent that money on our problems. It would be interesting to see how other countries respond to not having us as their backup plan.

Unfortunately, our politicians have given me little reason to believe they could spend that money wisely.
 
We'd be much better off if we told the UN to screw off, stopped giving aid to countries, and instead spent that money on our problems. It would be interesting to see how other countries respond to not having us as their backup plan.

Unfortunately, our politicians have given me little reason to believe they could spend that money wisely.

So many ways to save money that taxes raises are completely unnecessary IMO.

Foreign Aid
Lifetime health care and pensions for former congressmen and women
Defense spending adjustments
Research
War on drugs
War on terrorism
Idiotic research projects
Failed gov programs
Federal agency overhauls
Criminal law and sentencing revisions ...

Some of that money could be sent improving the daily lives and education of our inner cities, poor and minorities.

Billions in savings and even hundreds of millions in increased revenue.
 
We'd be much better off if we told the UN to screw off, stopped giving aid to countries, and instead spent that money on our problems. It would be interesting to see how other countries respond to not having us as their backup plan.

Unfortunately, our politicians have given me little reason to believe they could spend that money wisely.
The UN sucks and needs to be abolished
 
So many ways to save money that taxes raises are completely unnecessary IMO.

Foreign Aid
Lifetime health care and pensions for former congressmen and women
Defense spending adjustments
Research
War on drugs
War on terrorism
Idiotic research projects
Failed gov programs
Federal agency overhauls
Criminal law and sentencing revisions ...

Some of that money could be sent improving the daily lives and education of our inner cities, poor and minorities.

Billions in savings and even hundreds of millions in increased revenue.

you forgot 1.
LESS spending on Golf for obama.

Michelle-Obama-dogs.jpg
 
Baltimore?

Baltimore?

This is where only my matchless skill at wandering through a hundred topics to get to the point is called for. . . . ..


hmmmmm. . . . . . From abolishing the UN to the modern "inner city" Reservation system for establishing human dependency relationships with demagogues. A piece of cake, really.

The UN is a puppet government of the British and their American "Tory" banksters, a sort of ostensibly "democratic" empire with no elected officials and no accountability to the governed, largely adroitly managed by the "right people."

"management" views the inner city as sort of corral where people can be compromised or made dependent upon government and kept in a sort of pigeon hole, works just like "reservations" out west. Isolated from the natural resources and denied the right to use them, for the sake of giving international corporates/cartels better control over those resources. Less competition. . . . restricted use and high profits.

For the UN elites, alias international cartels, putting the humans, or as they would view it, "their cattle" in urban corrals makes perfect sense. Giving them government handouts supports their prices and profits, restricting their options in every aspect of their lives forces them to dependency on both the government and their cartels.

Hell yeah, let's abolish the UN and re-enact the Sherman anti-trust provisions, or at least enforce the ones we still claim to have. . . . but watch out. Our "good citizen" corporates will install a dictator in some other country and do their business there, then start another war to force us to buy their weaponry.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuitE93NlCg
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Stupid law. but he did break the law and if i you or him breaks the law we need to accept the consequences of breaking those just or unjust laws.
and a consequence of breaking a just or unjust law is sometimes DEATH.


2nd point: it is kinda stupid that the freedom of officers is now dependent on whether the knife was legal or illegal. people should riot over this stupid law
 
We had foul districts but never ghettos like America. Pretty much the mob keeps control in the shady areas of town. Black or white it made no difference. America is the only place in modern times with ghettos. Anyone making excuses for this is deluded.
 
Case unraveling:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SScuEOIlIpg


Did anyone actually watch this video? Looking at the mug shots of the charged officers I couldn't help but wonder where Baltimore goes to find it's officers. Or is it that all mug shots make the defendant look guilty?

Another question. . . . why don't the race-baiters work up a howl about overcharging obvious "minority" defendants like these. . . . I mean, really, would white folks doing the same things have been charged to the max?

Seriously, if anyone goes to jail on this, I think we have come to being so politically-charged there is no such thing as due process anymore. The verdicts of our legal system will have descended to mere political convenience just like the worst banana republics, or like the worst we've heard of in Russia or China under statist totalitarianism.
 
^mugshots are made in tense and weird situation.
after you been fingerprinted process etc. it is a very stressful processes. it usually ends with the mugshot.

so by the mugshot you got the mugshot face. a mugshot look is not a guilty look, but a stressed/tense look.


2nd i dont think any of them will do jail time. whether the knife is deemed "legal" or not
 
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