You're right. No one did. But your response to Bronco's post alluded to the opposite of Jesus being a compassionate individual. Unless of course I misunderstood what you were trying to say...hence, why I asked you to be more specific.
Boyd K Packer passes away
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You're right. No one did. But your response to Bronco's post alluded to the opposite of Jesus being a compassionate individual. Unless of course I misunderstood what you were trying to say...hence, why I asked you to be more specific.
jazzlurker
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Everytime my dad used to hold me down and fart on my face he said, "that's just me showing you the love"
Oh... that's right. Well, I stand corrected. That's pretty much a green light to hate gay people.
Thanks for the enlightenment, Arch!
And gay. Diversity FTW!
Darkwing Duck
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I have a question and I'm not sure it's terribly proper in a thread like this, but I'll ask anyway.
Should, and I mean in any sort of general way, this man's passing, or any man's passing in Packer's role, have any sort of meaning for a non-Mormon living in Utah?
I guess to shorten the question, should I care? And I don't mean this pejoratively. Certainly noteworthy and newsworthy, and meaningful for those of the LDS faith, but I wonder if there I should give any more thought to this over, say, a known Hollywood celebrity's death.
Should, and I mean in any sort of general way, this man's passing, or any man's passing in Packer's role, have any sort of meaning for a non-Mormon living in Utah?
I guess to shorten the question, should I care? And I don't mean this pejoratively. Certainly noteworthy and newsworthy, and meaningful for those of the LDS faith, but I wonder if there I should give any more thought to this over, say, a known Hollywood celebrity's death.
Batman
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It sounds like Jazz Lurker could potentially have hard feelings against the church.
Packer was definately old school, but I think the word bigot is too strong. The bible pretty plainly denounces homosexuality and if you believe in the bible then you would acknowledge it as against the laws of God. Maybe even say it's unnatural but I'm not sure about that. I served a mission but when it comes to homosexuality I'm not sure what to say. I have a really good friend who is gay and married to a man. It's just the way he is wired not a choice he made to be attracted to men over women. That is one principal I hate that is taught in the church. You are attracted to who you are attracted to. It's not like you can just choose to be attracted to a gender you don't find sexually attractive. Feel like Macklemore when he says "but we paraphrase a book written 2500 years ago... I don't know..."
Regardless, Packer was a good person who did selfless things for others. He personified service, human dignity, and class. I don't think it's right too hate on him, considering there are scores of other people who one ahould hate on first and most of us will likely do less for the human race than he did.
Packer was definately old school, but I think the word bigot is too strong. The bible pretty plainly denounces homosexuality and if you believe in the bible then you would acknowledge it as against the laws of God. Maybe even say it's unnatural but I'm not sure about that. I served a mission but when it comes to homosexuality I'm not sure what to say. I have a really good friend who is gay and married to a man. It's just the way he is wired not a choice he made to be attracted to men over women. That is one principal I hate that is taught in the church. You are attracted to who you are attracted to. It's not like you can just choose to be attracted to a gender you don't find sexually attractive. Feel like Macklemore when he says "but we paraphrase a book written 2500 years ago... I don't know..."
Regardless, Packer was a good person who did selfless things for others. He personified service, human dignity, and class. I don't think it's right too hate on him, considering there are scores of other people who one ahould hate on first and most of us will likely do less for the human race than he did.
My desire for what I said actually has a practical application for the church.
My apologies. I was just being silly. I didn't mean anything by it.
jazzlurker
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My posts were far too juvenile to assume they come from deep caverns of hate against the church. I had no purpose of posting other than too invoke a sense of light humor to alleviate our own internal pressures that causes many of us to squirm when we read or hear that all men have bodily functions. And juvenile people use farts as an artistic medium to spread laughter. I'm quite sure that Jesus had many more times of joy and laughter than the moment of rage. We focus a lot on the pain He suffered and can take detailed accounts of all the great miracles. But what about the simple laughter he gave us? We are under immense internal pressures to not screw up our eternal lives by giving in to the thorns in our sides. We miss out on so much living because we are afraid to succumb to something. If Jesus was 100% human then he would also have a sense of humor, bodily functions, and could not always have been dramatic 24/7. Who would want to be around your boss all day long? Who would leave their lives and families to follow a fun hater? Who would follow man who could not take time to enjoy the simple things in life. He came to be our friend first. I bet, he would sit there with a bug in his hands and stare at it and laugh at how weird and ugly they are. Laughed even harder at the fear they can cause in us. We are all often too wrapped up in the seriousness of our lives we missed actually living. I'd take back decades to actually enjoy the experiences I've had. Minus my dad convincing me my whole life farting on people was okay. Should have seen how many women scattered from me every time I tried to use it as the move to first base..... Wait.... I've never made it past 1st. Who's on second?
Celebrate a life and try not to iconize a man into a box. I hear the rumors about Packer. What made him smile, laugh, and get up everyday. I think we all are looking for that key to life.
