**Breaking** Trey Burke being discussed in Trades!!!!

[Stifle Tower]

The Jazz can't 'extend' Rudy for 5 years at anything below the max. They can extend him for 4 years, for 5 years starting at the max, or wait until free agency to make him a 5-year offer starting at less than the max.

Thanks. That is something I didn't know about an extension. I appreciate you telling me. So that probably means we'll hear an announcement that the Jazz will put off contract talks until after next season. Jazz would certainly match anything he was offered, so little risk. And it will NEVER come to shopping the market. They know they got burned with Hayward's opt-out clause. Didn't SA wait to give Kawhi his deal? Or was that GS with Green?

 

[fishonjazz]

Absurd comment. Neither is anything remotely close to a bust. That invalidates any good direction your post was taking.

Do you not see who posted it?

 

[GVC]

Here's the link for the numbers I've been using. So, yes, SERIOUSLY, that's a published estimate.


Why are you so quick to always slam me? I have OFTEN given credit to you for your knowledge of the cap rules and have acknowledged when I have been wrong. But it seems like so many posts I make, you immediately jump into attack mode. I swear I have never been to Toronto, never slept with your SO, sister or any other member of your family.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...luxury-tax-threshold-dollar-amounts/25974437/

1. I was wrong to correct the estimate of $121mil tax line for a cap of ~$100mil. That does make sense.

2. However -- and this is where the post I made in response to your post last week-ish is relevant -- it's not because the difference between the cap and tax is generally between $15- and $20-million. The tax is calculated as a percentage of BRI, just like the cap. When BRI goes up, the cap, tax, and the difference between the two go up (roughly) proportionately. It's a meaningful distinction.

 

[fishonjazz]

Wow!!! A post I understood.

Lolololol

 

[fishonjazz]

No. Teams are going to start tanking hard and Brooklyn will still be trying to win games. I don't think they will end up being that far off the a bottom tier record, but they have no incentive to lose on purpose like a lot of teams will.

Good take

 

[Stifle Tower]

1. I was wrong to correct the estimate of $121mil tax line for a cap of ~$100mil. That does make sense.

2. However -- and this is where the post I made in response to your post last week-ish is relevant -- it's not because the difference between the cap and tax is generally between $15- and $20-million. The tax is calculated as a percentage of BRI, just like the cap. When BRI goes up, the cap, tax, and the difference between the two go up (roughly) proportionately. It's a meaningful distinction.

Yes, I knew about BRI vs. cap. The percentages usually are a bit less, IINM. For example, to say someone is eligible for a 30% contract with the cap at $100M might mean $29M-ish in salary, not $30M (I could be wrong). Just easier to say "cap" since most don't care to get into a discussion of BRI. That's also why I said $15-20M as the "gap.". And yes, the gap would increase as BRI grows larger. I accounted for that in starting at $15M and increasing to $20M. In any case, I think we can all agree that in 2018/19, when all FIVE players come off their rookie deals, the Jazz can't afford to pay them max (even based on BRI).

Kind of disappointed Rudy can't set the example by agreeing to a lower than max extension this summer/fall. I guess he can agree quickly the next summer as a RFA (if he waits to sign a new deal) and hope it influences Gordon. Call me a pessimist, but I see too many reasons for Hayward to play elsewhere. If I were a betting man, I'd predict he goes to Indiana. George can EASILY play PF, especially in this age of small-ball. That's why I've been on the trade-Hayward side. But perhaps DL could still do a S&T with Indiana.

 

[♪alt13]

Seriously? We've already been over this. The tax line would be around $130mil with a $100mil salary cap.

What will be the revenue for the Utah Jazz? 190 million? Correct me if I'm wrong but won't the payroll for small market teams grow more than their revenue? Would the Jazz still be profitable at say 129 million player salary even with the new TV money?

 

[vegas]

Our best chance at building is a lot of hometown discounts. Even then, we still lack some pieces, but we are pointed in the right direction. It's a really scary idea, but if money is more important than Championships to Hayward, he has to be put on the block. It will be interesting to see where this goes in the next couple years.

Edit: I think plan A is keep everyone essentially intact.

 

[Noomskull]

Erick Green not being re-signed...do you think that means we can't find a decent taker for Trey and the Jazz are content to just stand put?

 

[DForceAUS]

Erick Green not being re-signed...do you think that means we can't find a decent taker for Trey and the Jazz are content to just stand put?

Either that or they're receiving more players than sending out and need one extra spot.

 

[Miggs]

Relax and enjoy the ride, people.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Erick Green not being re-signed...do you think that means we can't find a decent taker for Trey and the Jazz are content to just stand put?

It's just roster flexibility for now... Nothing to read into at all.