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Bring Back Paul Milsap ?

firegirl said:
See this is the problem with this line of thinking. No one had any idea Gobert would be who he is!

You can't sit there and look at what might have been. It's so stupid and a waste of energy. LOOK FORWARD.
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This is all just a discussion. Chill.

We are having this discussion with hindsight. Sure we didn't know Gobert was going to be a DPOY of the candidate. However, we did know that Millsap was a good NBA player and we let him go for nothing. And we do know that Kanter ended up being worse than Millsap and Favors ended up being worse than Millsap.

So somebody made the point that we screwed up letting Millsap leave for nothing. I agree. It was a terrible mistake.

But that's in the past and we now have Mitchell. Now we got to do something to build around him or kick ourselves in 6 or 7 years when we'll talk about how we should have done this or that.
 
Knowledgeofmine said:
Did ya know Millsap lived in Denver as a kid?
He plans on retiring in Denver. Nuggets got great young squad, why would He leave? I heard he even take pay cut in Denver, give them the home town discount.[/QUOTE

They want to get younger and he cost too much
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LoPo said:
This is all just a discussion. Chill.

We are having this discussion with hindsight. Sure we didn't know Gobert was going to be a DPOY of the candidate. However, we did know that Millsap was a good NBA player and we let him go for nothing. And we do know that Kanter ended up being worse than Millsap and Favors ended up being worse than Millsap.

So somebody made the point that we screwed up letting Millsap leave for nothing. I agree. It was a terrible mistake.

But that's in the past and we now have Mitchell. Now we got to do something to build around him or kick ourselves in 6 or 7 years when we'll talk about how we should have done this or that.
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There will ALWAYS be talk about how we should have done this or that. It is impossible to know if the decision you're making today is the correct one. That's why you do the best you can and live with the results. Living through the rear view mirror is not living at all.
 
LoPo said:
We had Favors, Kanter and Gobert. Tons of length. Where did that get us?

Once Millsap left, we stopped going to the playoffs. He wasn't the only reason we were a playoff team, but he was a big reason why.
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They weren't really trying to make the playoffs. That was the Main reason they let him go. It was time for a rebuild, and he would have slowed that down.
 
firegirl said:
I gotcha.

I just don't subscribe to the "we should have never done that..." mind set about a move so far in the past. I mean how long ago was that? 7-8 years? At the time EVERYONE wanted length. We had to be longer to compete with Gasol and the like.
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That’s not at all why he wasn’t re-signed, but your point about crying over spilled milk stands.

But also, we shouldn’t have let him go. Still could’ve and likely would’ve grabbed Gobert, AND dodged the Exum bullet the next year. The Jazz got nothing out of their rebuild efforts they couldn’t have gotten as a good team.

But, you’re right. Oh well.
 
If it wasn't for how awful the 2020 FA class is I'd say throw a 1 year deal at him and see what he can bring, but I really feel the Jazz have to nail this offseason with how bad 2020 is shaping up and Mitchell's max extension kicking in the year after.
 
LoPo said:
We let a 4 time All Star leave for nothing in return. I'm quite certain that we would have won more games with him that without. Of course nobody knows for sure, but it doesn't take much statistical analysis to figure that out.
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Lol
gregbroncs said:
He wouldn't have made the all-star team in the west. This is a big reason the all-star game is a joke. I don't consider him an all star because he wouldn't make it if the league didn't consider east/west.

It was still the correct decision to let him go.
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Agreed
homeytennis said:
I think what Karl was driving at was why didn't the Jazz do a sign and trade with Big Al and Milsap and get something in return. The trade for Big Al cost the Jazz a lot. One of the throw ins in the deal was Kostas.
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We were starting over, the jazz didn’t want wins or extra cap hits. Back then it was all about the core4. Remember that?
LoPo said:
Once Millsap left, we stopped going to the playoffs. He wasn't the only reason we were a playoff team, but he was a big reason why.
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Hello!! We were tanking, that year the draft class was supposed to be the strongest in years, and turns out to be one of the weakest. Bad luck. It’s easy to look back and say that was a wrong move but at the time it was absolutely the right move. For all we know, had we kept Sap, maybe the jazz don’t trade up for Mitchell. Of course that’s also just speculation.
LoPo said:
This is all just a discussion. Chill.
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Nothing wrong with what @firegirl said, it just goes with what she thinks, so maybe you need to chill just a bit.

Personally I think Favors is better than Sap. @LoPo, part of your argument is that the jazz held Sap back playing him a few mins at sf. Same could be said for Favors. First and foremost Favors had to take a back seat to Gobert and play pf, which wasn’t his natural position. Favors is simply a better player, period. Favors never had a shot at being one of the focal points during his prime, and quite frankly sacrificed his progression and prime for the team.
 
We let Milsap go because we were chasing a championship. He ended up being good, which we knew, but never was a championship level player.

Lose/win Win/lose situation
 
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