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Burglar Shot Dead

You need to keep in mind what the intruders mindset may be in a situation like this. Someone willing to forcibly enter a house in the early morning hours is not someone you can reason with. Someone willing to do this disregarding the fact that the family may be home, to me, is a dangerous individual. I saw Tasers and Pepper Spray mentioned. Tasers are not a catch-all for non-lethal uses of force. If the suspect has on thick clothing the probes won't stick, if the suspect moves quickly the probes won't stick. If the probes don't spread far enough the taser will not have the desired effect.

I have personally experience pepper spray cause a violent reaction in suspects more often then it takes them out of the fight. I've watched more individuals under OC Spray fight harder then they normally would as they are blinded and swinging at anything. Plus, with OC you always suffer "blowback" and expose the person spraying, which is why Law Enforcement are exposed in the Academy, to prepare you for getting exposed when you first deploy it on someone.

With the intruder willing to forcibly enter an occupied home clearly he poses a danger to the family inside and the owner is justified in using deadly force. Just my opinion.
 
Boondocksaint27 said:
You need to keep in mind what the intruders mindset may be in a situation like this. Someone willing to forcibly enter a house in the early morning hours is not someone you can reason with. Someone willing to do this disregarding the fact that the family may be home, to me, is a dangerous individual. I saw Tasers and Pepper Spray mentioned. Tasers are not a catch-all for non-lethal uses of force. If the suspect has on thick clothing the probes won't stick, if the suspect moves quickly the probes won't stick. If the probes don't spread far enough the taser will not have the desired effect.

I have personally experience pepper spray cause a violent reaction in suspects more often then it takes them out of the fight. I've watched more individuals under OC Spray fight harder then they normally would as they are blinded and swinging at anything. Plus, with OC you always suffer "blowback" and expose the person spraying, which is why Law Enforcement are exposed in the Academy, to prepare you for getting exposed when you first deploy it on someone.

With the intruder willing to forcibly enter an occupied home clearly he poses a danger to the family inside and the owner is justified in using deadly force. Just my opinion.
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Dude, quit being rational and logical. Unlucky17 thinks posters like you are a joke and ruining the site. How dare you think this way!!!!


BTW, good post. +4.
 
Archie Moses said:
But rubber bullets hurt, dude. It eliminated his ninja abilities don't you think?
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Pretty obvious that those weren't rubber bullets (or really ****** ones) if they were exploding into white powder. Once again, Archie, you ****ing fail. Please continue to fail harder and harder... it's all you know how to do.

Typically during crowd control they fire rubber bullets off the ground and bounce them into targets, and it still stuns people and knocks them down. Shoot them directly and guess what's going to happen.

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I don't know why I'm trying to educate a complete moran, though. Seems like a waste of my time.
 
The injuries above looks to be from something a lot bigger than bullets that would fit in most homeowner's hand guns. So are you saying homeowners should have this instead:

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Boondocksaint27 said:
You need to keep in mind what the intruders mindset may be in a situation like this. Someone willing to forcibly enter a house in the early morning hours is not someone you can reason with. Someone willing to do this disregarding the fact that the family may be home, to me, is a dangerous individual. I saw Tasers and Pepper Spray mentioned. Tasers are not a catch-all for non-lethal uses of force. If the suspect has on thick clothing the probes won't stick, if the suspect moves quickly the probes won't stick. If the probes don't spread far enough the taser will not have the desired effect.

I have personally experience pepper spray cause a violent reaction in suspects more often then it takes them out of the fight. I've watched more individuals under OC Spray fight harder then they normally would as they are blinded and swinging at anything. Plus, with OC you always suffer "blowback" and expose the person spraying, which is why Law Enforcement are exposed in the Academy, to prepare you for getting exposed when you first deploy it on someone.

With the intruder willing to forcibly enter an occupied home clearly he poses a danger to the family inside and the owner is justified in using deadly force. Just my opinion.
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Well said. But I still think people should consider ways to disable an intruder before thinking of ways to outright kill them. I'd like to see how these gun-touting hard asses would react if they shot some teenage kid to death because they entered their house.

I agree that they are justified in doing whatever they want, but you don't want killing some kid to be on your conscience. I can guarantee that if you have any sympathy for anything at all, if you killed somebody you'd think back to the situation a hundred times wondering if you made the right choice. Anybody saying "It's the right choice! I'd never regret it" is obviously talking out of their *** considering I'm positive they've never killed a civilian in their life.
 
So I'm a moron because I think if you're threatened to the point (home invasion) where you have to fire a gun you should use real bullets instead of rubber bullets? Seriously?

Please award me "moran" of the year then! I'll own that moronship any time of the year.
 
unluckyseventeen said:
Well said. But I still think people should consider ways to disable an intruder before thinking of ways to outright kill them. I'd like to see how these gun-touting hard asses would react if they shot some teenage kid to death because they entered their house.

I agree that they are justified in doing whatever they want, but you don't want killing some kid to be on your conscience. I can guarantee that if you have any sympathy for anything at all, if you killed somebody you'd think back to the situation a hundred times wondering if you made the right choice. Anybody saying "It's the right choice! I'd never regret it" is obviously talking out of their *** considering I'm positive they've never killed a civilian in their life.
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It would totally suck if I shot and killed a guy. I would never get over it and I would have to live with knowing that for the rest of my life. I wish that feeling on no one. With that being said, it would suck a hell of a lot more if I didn't do something I could have and my family was injured, raped, or murdered. You tell me what would you rather live with?

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Air soft gun for protection for the win!
 
C l u t c H 385 said:
The injuries above looks to be from something a lot bigger than bullets that would fit in most homeowner's hand guns. So are you saying homeowners should have this instead:

arwen_7x.jpg
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Okay, what about this?

https://www.mindfully.org/Health/2002/Rubber-Bullets-Israeli-Arab25may02F2.jpg

(Not posting the picture directly as some might find it overly graphic - follow the link)

Those look small enough to be inflicted by small arms. And yes, if you are buying a weapon for your protection, you should buy something designed to harm somebody rather than designed to kill somebody. I don't think I need to bring up the statistics on weapons in the home discharged on people living within the home versus actually dangerous people, do I?

I mean, it's your right to do whatever you want to an intruder. But, it'd be easier living knowing you shot the **** out of somebody with a stun gun and got them arrested versus killing them and dealing with knowing you took a life of a civilian. I don't need to kill somebody to appreciate that every life is important to somebody, and that ending it unnecessarily is going to cause ripples that you are, in more than one way, responsible for.
 
unluckyseventeen said:
Okay, what about this?

https://www.mindfully.org/Health/2002/Rubber-Bullets-Israeli-Arab25may02F2.jpg

(Not posting the picture directly as some might find it overly graphic - follow the link)

Those look small enough to be inflicted by small arms. And yes, if you are buying a weapon for your protection, you should buy something designed to harm somebody rather than designed to kill somebody. I don't think I need to bring up the statistics on weapons in the home discharged on people living within the home versus actually dangerous people, do I?

I mean, it's your right to do whatever you want to an intruder. But, it'd be easier living knowing you shot the **** out of somebody with a stun gun and got them arrested versus killing them and dealing with knowing you took a life of a civilian. I don't need to kill somebody to appreciate that every life is important to somebody, and that ending it unnecessarily is going to cause ripples that you are, in more than one way, responsible for.
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I'll take my chances hitting someone once to incapacitate them rather than have to hit them multiple times to maybe get the job done. Agree to disagree I guess. That doesn't make anyone who chooses their family's safety over that of some scuzzbag a moron.
 
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