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But...like really.....how the **** are we gonna get a star?

You are some sad sad people...I pity you and your negative take on everything. Wait, no I don't pity you, most of you deserve it.
 
JimLes said:
If it's so easy to tank for the Jazz, isn't it just as easy for the other teams? I mean, right now, we're ahead of the Lakers and the Sixers, whom we just played. Suppose our FO rested whomever the pro-tank crew believes is leading us to victory this week(I can't keep track, you people keep changing your mind...Jefferson, Marvin, Hayward, Burks). What the hell is stopping the Sixers, who want a top-3 pick just as hard, from resting whatever players they have?
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We can't be worse than lakers,bucks and sixers. It's obvious... The Jazz cannot be that bad with those players. Btw hayward didn't play in 5 consecutive games due to a minor injury. Favors keeps missing games. We try a bit but man look at this bucks team, the lakers team. They're on another level. Teams like sacramento, utah or orlando which all are in possible top 5 range can't play that horrible. Bottom 3 will be bucks sixers and lakers. Even if both hay and favors get sidelined, we CAN'T become the team or pseudo team that Bucks have. Sad bur true. I hope we could get a pick from 4-6 range.


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Scorpjazz said:
You are some sad sad people...I pity you and your negative take on everything. Wait, no I don't pity you, most of you deserve it.
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What's so sad about hoping that the team, that's not going to make the playoffs, would get more ping pong balls and add a potential superstar to this developing group? Why make the trade with Golden State and take on the contracts they took if they aren't going full-tank? I get it and so does almost every other Jazz fan. If you're gonna be bad, be really bad. Instead, they're also mediocre at being bad.
 
The Jazz need to sit Kanter and Gobert and give us more Brickins! Especially in crunch time. More JL3! Get this tank back on track.
 
Julie Greengiant said:
Daryl Morey spent years collecting valuable assets in hopes of flipping them for marquee talent. Then he took advantage of a situation in which a team could not afford to pay a star. How was luck involved there?
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Good GM'ing in the sense that he prepared himself for the good fortune of Harden becoming avail.

Good Luck in that he was able to steal a star away from a team in a manner that has never before happened in the modern NBA and likely will never happen again.
 
This is what I do:

Look at SA and copy what Pop has done.

1 - Sit Favors the rest of the year. Have him go hang out with Karl and get freaky fit and an offensive move for next year. We suck without Favors.
2 - Take turns sitting everyone else. Have Hayward and Burks take turns sitting out. One starts one night, the other sits. Then visa versa. This shows you what Burks can be as a starter.
3 - Start Kanter every game. This lets you see what you have with him, and how he fits in with Burks/Hayward/Burke.
4 - Make Beidrens play 25 mins a game. You are paying the guy 10+ million. Make him earn it.
5 - 10 day every PG and SG and SF in the DLeague. Find a gem or two to fill out the roster next year.

This gives you this lineup:

Burke/???/???
Burks or Hayward/???/???
Jefferson/???
Marvin/Evans
Kanter/Gobert/Biedrens

You see what you have with Kanter, Gobert, Evans, and Burks as a starter. Jefferson, you want to go play for a title contender? Well, go show them what you have (lol).

We wouldn't win more than 5 more games the rest of the year with no Favors, missing either Hayward/Burks every game, and I'd even let Burke pull a groin muscle the rest of the year.
 
green said:
This is what I do:

Look at SA and copy what Pop has done.

1 - Sit Favors the rest of the year. Have him go hang out with Karl and get freaky fit and an offensive move for next year. We suck without Favors.
2 - Take turns sitting everyone else. Have Hayward and Burks take turns sitting out. One starts one night, the other sits. Then visa versa. This shows you what Burks can be as a starter.
3 - Start Kanter every game. This lets you see what you have with him, and how he fits in with Burks/Hayward/Burke.
4 - Make Beidrens play 25 mins a game. You are paying the guy 10+ million. Make him earn it.
5 - 10 day every PG and SG and SF in the DLeague. Find a gem or two to fill out the roster next year.

This gives you this lineup:

Burke/???/???
Burks or Hayward/???/???
Jefferson/???
Marvin/Evans
Kanter/Gobert/Biedrens

You see what you have with Kanter, Gobert, Evans, and Burks as a starter. Jefferson, you want to go play for a title contender? Well, go show them what you have (lol).

We wouldn't win more than 5 more games the rest of the year with no Favors, missing either Hayward/Burks every game, and I'd even let Burke pull a groin muscle the rest of the year.
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I like this plan...... therefore corbin hates it
 
green said:
This is what I do:

Look at SA and copy what Pop has done.

1 - Sit Favors the rest of the year. Have him go hang out with Karl and get freaky fit and an offensive move for next year. We suck without Favors.
2 - Take turns sitting everyone else. Have Hayward and Burks take turns sitting out. One starts one night, the other sits. Then visa versa. This shows you what Burks can be as a starter.
3 - Start Kanter every game. This lets you see what you have with him, and how he fits in with Burks/Hayward/Burke.
4 - Make Beidrens play 25 mins a game. You are paying the guy 10+ million. Make him earn it.
5 - 10 day every PG and SG and SF in the DLeague. Find a gem or two to fill out the roster next year.

This gives you this lineup:

Burke/???/???
Burks or Hayward/???/???
Jefferson/???
Marvin/Evans
Kanter/Gobert/Biedrens

You see what you have with Kanter, Gobert, Evans, and Burks as a starter. Jefferson, you want to go play for a title contender? Well, go show them what you have (lol).

We wouldn't win more than 5 more games the rest of the year with no Favors, missing either Hayward/Burks every game, and I'd even let Burke pull a groin muscle the rest of the year.
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fishonjazz said:
I like this plan...... therefore corbin hates it
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Unless you can prove injury, the NBA likely steps in. SA has been fined before for merely resting key vets in back-to-backs.

It's fine to ask players to sit out, but the league is going to step in. The players union will file grievances. Curry was legitimately hurt and so was Bogut for the W's. Did they tank? Yes. Was everyone from the owner, coach and players in on the fix? Yes. It was despicable. I don't want Jazz players to intentionally miss shots and throw the ball away (besides, hayward and burke can do that well enough on their own).

The only intervention I'd like to see is for MW and RJ, if not traded, to play less after Feb 20th. And the Jazz should give more time for legitimate player injuries to heal. Maybe Favors needs a week after tweaking his hip. He's hurt it before. Maybe he came back to soon. And if Burke is reporting back pain, perhaps he needs to take off a couple of games. But intentionally throwing games? I can't cheer for any team that does that.
 
Just so everyone knows, I disagree strongly with the Burks/Maggette comparison, other than getting to the ft line. Maggette was a blackhole that made alfense look like the showtime lakers. Which is why I never understood why Jazzfanz wanted him so badly. Then again, they all wanted Morris Almond Joy who is actually a better comp to Maggette, just not as good at being Maggette except in the DLeague. But I digress.

Burks may have the inclination to chuck, but he's been doing a better and better job of reigning that in as the season goes on. He seems to be a more than willing passer. I guess he does that same thing as Hayward does where they get better as the season goes on after sucking at the beginning.
 
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