Can Ty Corbin get us a ring?
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I was happy to see a new coach, and ok with Corbin getting a chance.
After a small sample I'm a little discouraged. Some of his rotations were questionable, and I didn't see any real difference from Sloan.
I hope he can really tweek things enough to put his stamp on this team.
He can't be a Sloan clone if he wants to succeed. He needs to take the good things he learned from Jerry, and put his own imput into the squad.
After a small sample I'm a little discouraged. Some of his rotations were questionable, and I didn't see any real difference from Sloan.
I hope he can really tweek things enough to put his stamp on this team.
He can't be a Sloan clone if he wants to succeed. He needs to take the good things he learned from Jerry, and put his own imput into the squad.
7StraightIsGreat
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I don't think the Jazz errored one bit in the decision to hire Corbin or in the process. Before anybody questions the Jazz on this one, there's a couple of factors to be considered:
-Usually 1st assistants don't get passed over in favor of a 2nd assistant, but the Jazz situation was unique. In Phil Johnson, the Jazz had a first assistant who was nearly as old as their HC. Utah knew full well that the day Sloan decided to walk away, Johnson was going to be leaving with him. Phil wasn't going to take the HC job if it was offered.
-Utah was lucky to have Ty as a 2nd assistant. He's a #1 assistant on most benches in the NBA IMO. Not only that, Ty had spent the last couple of seasons interviewing for HC jobs and may have been a shoe-in to get one elsewhere in 2011.
I think a good time before Jerry stepped-down, Ty had already become the "coach in waiting" in the minds of the Miller family.
-Usually 1st assistants don't get passed over in favor of a 2nd assistant, but the Jazz situation was unique. In Phil Johnson, the Jazz had a first assistant who was nearly as old as their HC. Utah knew full well that the day Sloan decided to walk away, Johnson was going to be leaving with him. Phil wasn't going to take the HC job if it was offered.
-Utah was lucky to have Ty as a 2nd assistant. He's a #1 assistant on most benches in the NBA IMO. Not only that, Ty had spent the last couple of seasons interviewing for HC jobs and may have been a shoe-in to get one elsewhere in 2011.
I think a good time before Jerry stepped-down, Ty had already become the "coach in waiting" in the minds of the Miller family.
vslice02
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Ty has a couple of things going for him.
1. He's pretty well-liked by his players - I think mainly because he was still playing well into the late-90's so he can relate to today's players better.
2. He's energetic and comfortable being himself rather than trying to fit in - it's not a sign of success but it was nice to see your assistant coach giving a fist-pump every now and then. (On a sidenote - when Scott Layden gets fired up it's actually kind of funny).
The fact that - atleast for now - the players like him gives him a little rope while he gains HC experience - because he's going to make mistakes as he learns how to manage games - from timeout usage, to managing minutes, to making adjustments based on the defense, to diagraming plays in late-game situations, from knowing when to go for a quick 2 instead of a 3, to knowing what advice from your assistants.
A rookie HC is no different from a player, you may think he does or doesn't have the tools to succeed but until you see how he functions as "the guy" with the pressure to make all the decisions, we won't know for sure.
FWIW, I've always liked Hornacek as the future HC of the Jazz - but due to his lack of bench experience, Ty definitely deserves a fair chance to prove himself.
1. He's pretty well-liked by his players - I think mainly because he was still playing well into the late-90's so he can relate to today's players better.
2. He's energetic and comfortable being himself rather than trying to fit in - it's not a sign of success but it was nice to see your assistant coach giving a fist-pump every now and then. (On a sidenote - when Scott Layden gets fired up it's actually kind of funny).
The fact that - atleast for now - the players like him gives him a little rope while he gains HC experience - because he's going to make mistakes as he learns how to manage games - from timeout usage, to managing minutes, to making adjustments based on the defense, to diagraming plays in late-game situations, from knowing when to go for a quick 2 instead of a 3, to knowing what advice from your assistants.
A rookie HC is no different from a player, you may think he does or doesn't have the tools to succeed but until you see how he functions as "the guy" with the pressure to make all the decisions, we won't know for sure.
FWIW, I've always liked Hornacek as the future HC of the Jazz - but due to his lack of bench experience, Ty definitely deserves a fair chance to prove himself.
7StraightIsGreat
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I'm not saying Corbin getting fired after 1 full season is impossible, but I would say it's extremely unlikely. The wheels would really have to come off for them to make a move like that.
Up until last season, Utah was a franchise that hung their hat on consistency and the fact that they never made moves in a panic. Now that Sloan's midseason retirement and the D-Will trade are in their rearview mirror, I think Utah is very eager to settle back down and return to business as usual.
I honestly don't know what Corbin would have to do (or not do) in order to get fired after just 1 full season. I'm sure the Miller's don't have a "playoffs or bust" type of attitude going into next season which means the bar is set pretty low for Ty heading into next year.
I just don't see The Miller's pulling the plug on a coach that soon.
just because
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I think I read somewhere that Terry prefers to come off the bench.
Lucky 8ball
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This. No way is Corbin fired. Ok if they win less than 7 games, maybe.
SojoDave
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Things I hope Ty brings to the table next year...
1. I hope he has a clear defensive scheme. Hopefully different than Jerry's.
2. I hope he makes a brave choice in his starting forward and is able to have Millsap come off the bench.
3. I hope he focuses on developing young players and not give minutes to veterans like Raja.
4. I hope he can develop good chemistry with veterans Harris and Jefferson.
5. Please focus the team on rebounding...we got killed on the boards last year.
6. For the love that is all holy, please reign in CJ Miles and don't tell him that he is our "shooter off the bench".
1. I hope he has a clear defensive scheme. Hopefully different than Jerry's.
2. I hope he makes a brave choice in his starting forward and is able to have Millsap come off the bench.
3. I hope he focuses on developing young players and not give minutes to veterans like Raja.
4. I hope he can develop good chemistry with veterans Harris and Jefferson.
5. Please focus the team on rebounding...we got killed on the boards last year.
6. For the love that is all holy, please reign in CJ Miles and don't tell him that he is our "shooter off the bench".
