Celtics at Jazz, 1/26/2015 7:15PM MT Game Thread

[candrew]

Disappointing game. Not so much that The Jazz lost - they just plain old got out-worked by another marginally talented team that just wanted it more.

 

[Stoked]

so burke took 20 shots and has 0 assists, what's wrong with this dude?

Locke mentioned this. 2 shots were beyond half court buzzer beaters and 2 were extremely bad shots he was forced to take as the shot clock expired. So it should be 16 shots to be fair, but that is still no excuse for 0 assists.

 

[veji1]

Locke mentioned this. 2 shots were beyond half court buzzer beaters and 2 were extremely bad shots he was forced to take as the shot clock expired. So it should be 16 shots to be fair, but that is still no excuse for 0 assists.

This, the problem isn't the shots per se, it's the 0 assists.. His job as a PG is based on the different routes run and screens set by his teammates to initiate the creation of a scoring opportunity. even if it isn't a very good one, odds of success are better for Favors/Kanter post up than for a Trey shot...

 

[BYE]

Locke mentioned this. 2 shots were beyond half court buzzer beaters and 2 were extremely bad shots he was forced to take as the shot clock expired. So it should be 16 shots to be fair, but that is still no excuse for 0 assists.

I don't buy this. Trey is inherently a chucker. How many times a game with the shot clock down to 10 does he iso at the top, run the clock down with a few back and forth dribbles, and then shoot a horrible shot. He stops the ball, and a lot of his "forced" shots are because of him. He ranks 61 in the league among guards for assists/48min.

 

[Siro]

I don't buy this. Trey is inherently a chucker. How many times a game with the shot clock down to 10 does he iso at the top, run the clock down with a few back and forth dribbles, and then shoot a horrible shot. He stops the ball, and a lot of his "forced" shots are because of him. He ranks 61 in the league among guards for assists/48min.

He did take two half court shots at the buzzer. I didn't see any forced shots. The fact the last 3 shots were terrible is because he went into hero mode to end the game, as usual. One of them, he refused the screen as he dribbled the last 6 seconds of the shot clock away, and then took a contested three. Another was him running into the defenders in an unnecessary circus shot. Regardless, it's not like one game changes anything. Burke has always been a chucker, and I suspect he always will be.

 

[JAZZGASM]

I don't buy this. Trey is inherently a chucker. How many times a game with the shot clock down to 10 does he iso at the top, run the clock down with a few back and forth dribbles, and then shoot a horrible shot. He stops the ball, and a lot of his "forced" shots are because of him. He ranks 61 in the league among guards for assists/48min.

Agreed. Saying he took 18 shots makes sense, because buzzer beaters should be out of the scope. His shooting would have been worse but he made a few in a row in the fourth (think he was 4-7, by no means blistering), and then Boler and Boone start going off on how great Trey is playing. LOL. But how many times on a fast break does he miss an open player? He is selfish. Not what a team needs in a PG, whether they start or come off the bench. He slows the offense. He is an anti-point guard. What I don't understand, is how Snyder allows it to happen over and over and over again.

 

[Stoked]

I don't buy this. Trey is inherently a chucker. How many times a game with the shot clock down to 10 does he iso at the top, run the clock down with a few back and forth dribbles, and then shoot a horrible shot. He stops the ball, and a lot of his "forced" shots are because of him. He ranks 61 in the league among guards for assists/48min.

Then take it up with Locke.

 

[Spinoza]

I watched maybe less than half of this game, but seems like both Exum and Burke were really awful (Burke looked okay when I was watching, Exum was playing bad). Hopefully we can just move on and forget about this one.

 

[fishonjazz]

but seems like both Exum and Burke were really awful

This
And it's the common theme alot of games.
Point guard is our worst position right now (hopefully future dante changes this) and has been for a long time.
Lucas, tinsley, watson, pgab, diante, mo, trey, rookie exum. Lots of scrubs.

Take away d-will and Stockton and it looks horrible since way back.
Crotty, larue, jaque, milt, hart, brevin, mccleod,..... arroyo and eisley were ok.

Hard to be a great team without a good point guard

 

[Spinoza]

Lol, Dante was actually better at creating offense even in this game. He had some nice passes but pretty much every single open shot he created was missed. Smart will have real trouble creating offense in the league...but he's awesome at D.

Exum is awesome at D. I see him get burned here and there, but in general he makes the opposing guard have to work extremely hard to see the court or to get a good shot off. There has been so many times this season where the opposing PG is just wrecking us, then Exum comes in and completely changes the tone of the game defensively. The opposing point can no longer be the dynamic playmaker he was used to being and it forces an ad hoc change in the opponents strategy. In fact, I think that's the real reason he was put into the starting line-up and the whole "we need Burke for scoring on the 2nd unit" is political BS.

 

[Spinoza]

I'm starting to fear that Exum was a wasted pick. I wonder how the draft would've turned out for him if he had worked out with more than just the Bucks/Sixers/Magic or if he had gone to college for a year.

Feel free to talk me out of this train of thought.

If Exum was an American following the same timeline as Wiggins/Parker, he would possibly be the #1 pick, and probably goes ahead of Parker.

He has all the tools necessary to become an elite player and the only thing holding him back is his mental state and experience level, which are both sure to change dramatically better in the near future.

 

[Stoked]

Hopefully Exum develops and becomes that answer at PG that the Jazz desperately need right now.

Then get a shooter that can D up in the draft and the two most glaring holes for the Jazz are filled.