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CEO raises minimum wage to $70000, takes $70000 wage himself until profits are met.

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ElRoach0 said:
Some of us working folk have a job to do, and think it's a better idea to do their job than argue.

Forgive me if I took a break from all this to work.
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yeah, man, sorry for puttin you through the ringer. Phew. u okay?
 
NAOS said:
1. I back up ElRoachO's posts

2. He tries to help me think differently than I'm currently thinking

3. I still don't quite get that he's not against me, just against the inability to see the other side's PoV.

4. ???????????????????

5. Profit.
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Fixed.

No internet list is complete without step 5.
 
So are you now saying that little thought experiment was more than a joke? Because you plead down to joking earlier. If it was supposed to teach me something, would you care to distill it for us here? now? tia
 
ElRoach0 said:
No one is saying America is a bad place to live. (Except maybe DutchJazzer; but eff that guy)

Some of us are saying we'd like to see poverty cleaned up, the discouraging income inequality addressed, and bring a level of overall happiness to everyone.

Others of us are saying they see footing the bill for everyone else as a slant against their pride. They worked hard for their money, dammit, they've earned it.

Bickering amongst each other is how we find a middle ground we can all live with.


But I think most of us can agree our current government system, from law makers to SS Check dispensaries, could be doing a better, more efficient job with whatever amount of money we send them. How much, or how little each of us have sent, is inconsequential.
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Perhaps I'm misinterpreting, but it sure feels like Dalamon is doing his best to infer that America is quite subpar as a country. If I'm wrong, then I apologize and retract my statement.
 
NAOS said:
So are you now saying that little thought experiment was more than a joke? Because you plead down to joking earlier. If it was supposed to teach me something, would you care to distill it for us here? now? tia
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The part about you opening a door and realizing you don't know as much as you think was a joke. So was the rep comment.

The part about me trying to get you to see it any other way but your own, was not.

And to a degree is another example.

I pride myself in being able to get people to see it a way differently than what they're imagining. I'm very good at this, and is a huge part of my job.

I was unable to get you to see a pile of money as a source of pride, instead of just a pile of money.

So because you can't catch what I'm throwing, it's like my version of a higher tax rate. It hits me in not my pocketbook, but my pride.

Does that make sense to you?
 
Howard said:
Perhaps I'm misinterpreting, but it sure feels like Dalamon is doing his best to infer that America is quite subpar as a country. If I'm wrong, then I apologize and retract my statement.
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I won't speak for him. But let's ask, as I might be wrong too.

Dalabro, is the US a terrible place to live? Absolutely subpar in all sense of the word?
 
NAOS said:
Also, Scandinavian countries basically don't have to fund a military. A few years ago the average age of a Danish soldier was 42-years old. Their whole system is job safety net. It helps when NATO fronts the vast vast majority of your costs.
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That's basically the problem with every one of these dramatic, fear mongering 'look over there, that country is so much better because <insert random statistic here>. Most of them fall flat on their face in a matter of a few moments of reflection.

You can take the infant mortality rate for example. We needed to fix things because every year Cuba comes out with an incredibly low figure for an impoverished country. Well, dig just a bit deeper and you find Cuban-Americans also have a low infant mortality rate and Cuba is an outlier in how much it spends on healthcare (with obvious impoverishing effects elsewhere). They like to point to Japan's 2% rate, America needs to be like Japan. But do they ever mention that the Japanese abort pretty much every baby conceived out of wedlock? In 1980 something there were a total of something like 18 births to mothers 15 and under. That's insanely low. They also never mention the chronically high peripartum morbidity rates of 3 times the USA, or the sever lack of neonatal physicians and nurses at birthing hospitals (neither do the Canadians for that matter). Our healthcare system is expensive because we take care of people and believe in treating employees fairly. Japan under-staffs and overworks their medical staff to the bones.

These things rarely make it into the discussion. Instead it's look I have a statistic so you're monolithic, narrow-minded, dogmatic ideologue.
 
franklin said:
That's basically the problem with every one of these dramatic, fear mongering 'look over there, that country is so much better because <insert random statistic here>. Most of them fall flat on their face in a matter of a few moments of reflection.
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Frankie poo, when you see an idea that's working, and there are statistics to back it up, does that not cause you to think "hey... maybe that could work"?

Or is your first instinct "no no no, that'll never work. It's not the way I do things, so it can't be right"
 
ElRoach0 said:
No one is saying America is a bad place to live. (Except maybe DutchJazzer; but eff that guy)

Some of us are saying we'd like to see poverty cleaned up, the discouraging income inequality addressed, and bring a level of overall happiness to everyone.

Others of us are saying they see footing the bill for everyone else as a slant against their pride. They worked hard for their money, dammit, they've earned it.

Bickering amongst each other is how we find a middle ground we can all live with.


But I think most of us can agree our current government system, from law makers to SS Check dispensaries, could be doing a better, more efficient job with whatever amount of money we send them. How much, or how little each of us have sent, is inconsequential.
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If the goal is to bring happiness we need to address the culture of consumerism more than income inequality.
 
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