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The Department of Justice has removed a study showing that white supremacist and far-right violence “continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism” in the United States.

The study, which was conducted by the National Institute of Justice and hosted on a DOJ website was available there at least until September 12, 2025, according to an archive of the page saved by the Wayback Machine.

“The Department of Justice's Office of Justice Programs is currently reviewing its websites and materials in accordance with recent Executive Orders and related guidance,” reads a message on the page where the study was formerly hosted. “During this review, some pages and publications will be unavailable. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.”

Shortly after Donald Trump took office he issued an executive order that forced government agencies to scrub their sites of any mention of “diversity,” “gender,” “DEI,” and other “forbidden words” and perceived notions of “wokeness.” The executive order impacted every government agency, including NASA, and was a huge waste of engineers’ time.

We don’t know why the study about far-right extremist violence was removed recently, but it comes immediately after the assassination of conservative personality Charlie Kirk, accusations from the administration that the left is responsible for most of the political violence in the country, and a renewed commitment from the administration to crack down on the “radical left.”

“For years, those on the radical left have compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to Nazis and the world's worst mass murderers and criminals,” Trump said in a speech after Kirk’s death. “This kind of rhetoric is directly responsible for the terrorism that we're seeing in our country today, and it must stop right now. My administration will find each and every one of those who contributed to this atrocity and to other political violence, including the organizations that fund it and support it.”

Elon Musk, who owns X, recently tweeted that he was going to “fix” the platform’s AI assistant Grok after it cited research that showed right-wing violence was more common than left-wing violence: “My apologies, we are fixing this cringe idiocy by Grok,” he said.
Vice President JD Vance, who guest hosted Kirk’s podcast on Monday, also vowed to go after “growing and powerful minority on the far left.”

“Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives,” the study said. “In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.”

The DOJ did not immediately respond to our request for comment. Steven Chermak, one of the study’s co-authors, declined to comment.
 
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The Department of Justice has removed a study showing that white supremacist and far-right violence “continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism” in the United States.

The study, which was conducted by the National Institute of Justice and hosted on a DOJ website was available there at least until September 12, 2025, according to an archive of the page saved by the Wayback Machine.

“The Department of Justice's Office of Justice Programs is currently reviewing its websites and materials in accordance with recent Executive Orders and related guidance,” reads a message on the page where the study was formerly hosted. “During this review, some pages and publications will be unavailable. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.”

Shortly after Donald Trump took office he issued an executive order that forced government agencies to scrub their sites of any mention of “diversity,” “gender,” “DEI,” and other “forbidden words” and perceived notions of “wokeness.” The executive order impacted every government agency, including NASA, and was a huge waste of engineers’ time.

We don’t know why the study about far-right extremist violence was removed recently, but it comes immediately after the assassination of conservative personality Charlie Kirk, accusations from the administration that the left is responsible for most of the political violence in the country, and a renewed commitment from the administration to crack down on the “radical left.”

“For years, those on the radical left have compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to Nazis and the world's worst mass murderers and criminals,” Trump said in a speech after Kirk’s death. “This kind of rhetoric is directly responsible for the terrorism that we're seeing in our country today, and it must stop right now. My administration will find each and every one of those who contributed to this atrocity and to other political violence, including the organizations that fund it and support it.”

Elon Musk, who owns X, recently tweeted that he was going to “fix” the platform’s AI assistant Grok after it cited research that showed right-wing violence was more common than left-wing violence: “My apologies, we are fixing this cringe idiocy by Grok,” he said.
Vice President JD Vance, who guest hosted Kirk’s podcast on Monday, also vowed to go after “growing and powerful minority on the far left.”

“Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives,” the study said. “In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.”

The DOJ did not immediately respond to our request for comment. Steven Chermak, one of the study’s co-authors, declined to comment.
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The Department of Justice has removed a study showing that white supremacist and far-right violence “continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism” in the United States.

The study, which was conducted by the National Institute of Justice and hosted on a DOJ website was available there at least until September 12, 2025, according to an archive of the page saved by the Wayback Machine.

“The Department of Justice's Office of Justice Programs is currently reviewing its websites and materials in accordance with recent Executive Orders and related guidance,” reads a message on the page where the study was formerly hosted. “During this review, some pages and publications will be unavailable. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.”

Shortly after Donald Trump took office he issued an executive order that forced government agencies to scrub their sites of any mention of “diversity,” “gender,” “DEI,” and other “forbidden words” and perceived notions of “wokeness.” The executive order impacted every government agency, including NASA, and was a huge waste of engineers’ time.

We don’t know why the study about far-right extremist violence was removed recently, but it comes immediately after the assassination of conservative personality Charlie Kirk, accusations from the administration that the left is responsible for most of the political violence in the country, and a renewed commitment from the administration to crack down on the “radical left.”

“For years, those on the radical left have compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to Nazis and the world's worst mass murderers and criminals,” Trump said in a speech after Kirk’s death. “This kind of rhetoric is directly responsible for the terrorism that we're seeing in our country today, and it must stop right now. My administration will find each and every one of those who contributed to this atrocity and to other political violence, including the organizations that fund it and support it.”

Elon Musk, who owns X, recently tweeted that he was going to “fix” the platform’s AI assistant Grok after it cited research that showed right-wing violence was more common than left-wing violence: “My apologies, we are fixing this cringe idiocy by Grok,” he said.
Vice President JD Vance, who guest hosted Kirk’s podcast on Monday, also vowed to go after “growing and powerful minority on the far left.”

“Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives,” the study said. “In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.”

The DOJ did not immediately respond to our request for comment. Steven Chermak, one of the study’s co-authors, declined to comment.
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Orwell missed it 'by thaaaat much'.

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I thought I would miss facebook more than I have. I figured I would re download it pretty soon after deleting. Nope. Dont even hardly miss it all.
 
My co workers and I had a discussion today and we decided we better stop talking about politics at all while at work for fear of getting fired.

Its what Charlie Kirk would have wanted.
 
fishonjazz said:
My wife was asking why this particular shooting was the one that got people so passionate and at first I couldn't think of why.

Then it hit me. We saw the bullet enter his neck and blood gush out and watched him slump over as if dead.

Maybe if we all watched a man dressed as a cop knock on the door of Melissa Hortman and shoot her, her husband and her dog at point blank range and saw the blood gush and the life leave their bodies then we would care more.

Maybe if we all watched the bullets entering the elementary school kids bodies and saw the blood gush and saw the life leave the children's bodies then maybe we would care more.

Instead no one really cares all the much. I see much more passionate discussions on Facebook in the last few days than I ever did for any murdered children.

Any thoughts?
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What if international media could access Gaza and show the world Israel's genocide?
 
fishonjazz said:
Jimmy Kimmel going down.......
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Rubashov said:
Free speech!!! Free speech!!!

But

Only the free speech I agree with!!!

It's not even a year anf the dictatorship is settling in nicely, corporations are doing the fascists dirty work for them to stay in the good books of the furher.

Your country is royally ****ed
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Will Australia take us?
 
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Will Australia take us?
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You're kidding? We hate migration as much as you guys.

Two weeks ago neo nazis organised an anti immigration rally in Melbourne, which finished with them assaulting a camp full of Indigenous people and some Chinese take away.

You can't make this **** up.

I'd be running to Canada if i were you guys, this in Berlin in 1936.
 
fishonjazz said:
My co workers and I had a discussion today and we decided we better stop talking about politics at all while at work for fear of getting fired.

Its what Charlie Kirk would have wanted.
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Now you know how conservatives have felt for 60 years. Charlie Kirk did nothing but advocate for free speech and having conversations.
 
I’m admittedly not too many hours into listening to some of these debates with Kirk. Never heard a word of his prior, but thanks to both sides of this stupid argumentative thread I’ve done so.

So far nothing that is him spouting hatred. He had made some dodge, stretch answers/retorts. He does have a mocking tone at times. I’ve also seen him be respectful as well. I’ve seen 10x worse here daily. If his is hate speech, then you people are friggin hitlers yourselves.

One of my thoughts is I won’t necessarily believe stats or facts spouted by Red or Kirk (whoever) without backup. Who knows if I’d be getting “DOL” stats on employment. I say look into everything. It’s easy to accept something conforming with your confirmation biases. Trust no one, check sources, data and conclusions. I do try to check links and sources.

There are so many instances of quoting one thing out of context to twist the message or get a reaction.

Both sides here need to deescalate. Kirk was not the second coming of St John, but he wasn’t Stalin either.

I might respond to a post or two that I disagree with in part or whole, or find intellectually dishonest.

I won’t respond to all the smug, repugnant posts some of you made, and I hope you find shame at some point for them.
 
LogGrad98 said:
The funny thing is, and what really makes it ironic, is that Charlie Kirk literally said it's justified to have dead children, among others, to maintain our 2nd amendment rights. He justified school shootings this way. With his own words, he would view his own death as a necessary evil for having the 2nd amendment rights we have. Do his followers believe what he said, or only as long as people they don't like or don't know are the ones being "sacrificed"?
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Is that the only part of the conversation you and others get stuck on. Pretty cherry pickish from the whole convo.

In the more full conversation he states that the cost of having the second amendment is some of these incidents. Just like the cost of vehicles and roads is 50k deaths a year by vehicle accident. We as a society have decided that cost is worth keeping roads, just as we should for the right to bear arms. Then he goes on to say we should have a reductionist view to do what we can to reduce the deaths.

He give s some of his approach to how, more fathers in homes, more armed guards at schools.

It is a logical argument.

I probably partially agree with him that we need to look at all means to reduce the deaths, but I also think there needs to be efforts made to make automatic and other military type guns locked down.

I also think… how did the war on drugs go? Were drugs stopped from getting into people’s hands? It’s interesting that the same people that oppose the war on drugs want a war on guns.

If someone wants a gun to do some violence, they will get it. Period. Law or no law.

I don’t like the cherry picking and what appears to be misrepresenting to say… Kirk bad, me good!
 
str8line said:
Does anyone think that The Pedophile won't use this to create more division?
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Does calling Trump a rapist and pedophile over and over make you feel right about hating him? Is it about those things? Probably not or you’d say the same crap about Biden, Clinton, or whoever. You pick and choose who you call names and it makes you feel strong?

99% sure there are a boatload of dems, republs, and celebs on that Epstein list.

Don’t act like it’s a one name list. It’s tiring.

I really don’t like Trump but your one sided shtick is tiring. If you call one out, call them all out.
 
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