Chicago is open to trading Zach LaVine

[hgb]

Sam Vecenie mentioned us as a potential trade suitor and thinks we make a ton of sense as a LaVine destination. The deal he put together:

Sexton, THT, Ochai and 2 firsts for LaVine

It’s honestly not the worst but if we did do it I would like to limit it to one first if possible. I think I’m out on him if it costs anything more than that. If it’s so cheap like this minus a first I would do it.

If those picks are coming the other way...

 

[whatthe]

Danny likes a deal sometimes no matter what. Maybe he trades for Zach near the deadline if the price comes down.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

In the next month teams (including the Bulls) will really show their cards here in how they value Zach as all the FA contracts signed will be eligible to be moved. I keep having this bad feeling the price gets too low and DA can’t resist.

 

[Elizah Huge]

In the next month teams (including the Bulls) will really show their cards here in how they value Zach as all the FA contracts signed will be eligible to be moved. I keep having this bad feeling the price gets too low and DA can’t resist.

They’ll ask Lauri about him and from what I can gather it seems like they liked each other when he was there.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Wonder if there is any chance the Jazz trade Hendricks to cut bait with a failed pick and somehow turn that into LaVine.

Face value I wouldnt want to trade a lottery pick for LaVine, but I would trade a bad lottery picked player for Lavine.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Wonder if there is any chance the Jazz trade Hendricks to cut bait with a failed pick and somehow turn that into LaVine.

Face value I wouldnt want to trade a lottery pick for LaVine, but I would trade a bad lottery picked player for Lavine.

I have an alternate theory on the weirdness around the Hendricks pick. It is most likely just JZ saying something in a weird way he thought would sound good but it was just really bad. But what if we took Taylor thinking the Thunder wanted him bad and would move up for him (since they were trying to move up for Cason). It would have been a reasonable target for the Thunder and Ainge has rolled the dice with this before (Tatum and trading back and Thybulle when he knew Philly wanted him). Would explain the tone of the press conference maybe... they might have called the bluff and got stuck with something they weren't in love with.

I wouldn't move anything of great value for Lavine... including Hendricks. I'm thinking if the Bulls want to be a different type of mid it would be Collins and THT for LaVine type of deal with no draft capital. Something around Clarkson and Collins for Lavine and another deal would also make some sense. Bulls just don't seem to want to rebuild and Collins is a decent fit with their roster. Would break up the LaVine deal... IDK. I don't think their offers get really good but it only takes one sucker.

 

[Tanktastic]

They’ll ask Lauri about him and from what I can gather it seems like they liked each other when he was there.

I don't think Lauri ever had anything against LaVine the person and him off-court. LaVine on-court and what he does to a team's style of play might be another thing.

 

[underdog]

They’ll ask Lauri about him and from what I can gather it seems like they liked each other when he was there.

I dug into this earlier out of curiosity, and it seems to me that LaVine might've been part of the reason Lauri asked to be traded out of Chicago. LaVine's unwillingness to pass the ball to his teammates and coaching decisions put Lauri in a position/role where he felt he couldn't play to his potential. In any case, I'm against trading for Zach also because his contract is too rich, and as a poor defender, he is not a two-way player. When Danny builds our team, I want at least one of our starter guards to be a strong defender.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I have an alternate theory on the weirdness around the Hendricks pick. It is most likely just JZ saying something in a weird way he thought would sound good but it was just really bad. But what if we took Taylor thinking the Thunder wanted him bad and would move up for him (since they were trying to move up for Cason). It would have been a reasonable target for the Thunder and Ainge has rolled the dice with this before (Tatum and trading back and Thybulle when he knew Philly wanted him). Would explain the tone of the press conference maybe... they might have called the bluff and got stuck with something they weren't in love with.

I wouldn't move anything of great value for Lavine... including Hendricks. I'm thinking if the Bulls want to be a different type of mid it would be Collins and THT for LaVine type of deal with no draft capital. Something around Clarkson and Collins for Lavine and another deal would also make some sense. Bulls just don't seem to want to rebuild and Collins is a decent fit with their roster. Would break up the LaVine deal... IDK. I don't think their offers get really good but it only takes one sucker.

I think they just took the best physical athlete available who had size/shooting. The fact they arent playing him at all tells me they know if he goes out there in front of people he will look awful and lower his value substantially

The thing that sucks is that he's shooting 36% from the field in one of the easiest leagues in the world to put up gaudy offensive stats. He might be playing so poorly in the G-League that his value is hurt regardless. Also doenst help that the Jazz are doing so poorly that him not playing becomes even more of a condemnation on his abilities.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I don't think Lauri ever had anything against LaVine the person and him off-court. LaVine on-court and what he does to a team's style of play might be another thing.

Zach has been pretty negative on/off his whole career. This year the LaVine Derozan pairing is really bad together. -19.6 per 100. He has some lineups he is positive with that don't involve DeRozan. Its something I can talk myself into if I want... I'm sure DA and others can too. Bad coaching, bad vibes, needs a new home... yada yada.

When I hear teams like the Heat, NY, Clips etc are out... unless the Lakers bring something good there seems to be a vacuum here. DA is just really opportunistic.

 

[infection]

I dug into this earlier out of curiosity, and it seems to me that LaVine might've been part of the reason Lauri asked to be traded out of Chicago. LaVine's unwillingness to pass the ball to his teammates and coaching decisions put Lauri in a position/role where he felt he couldn't play to his potential. In any case, I'm against trading for Zach also because his contract is too rich, and as a poor defender, he is not a two-way player. When Danny builds our team, I want at least one of our starter guards to be a strong defender.

I’d like to think DA would take that into account but everything he’s ever said speaks otherwise. He’s stated that his job is to get as much talent as possible (implying that this is irrespective of fit or balance) and that it’s the team’s job to then figure that out. So I think he’ll trade for LaVine based solely on whether or not he wants to, and Lauri’s opinion probably does not factor in there at all.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I’d like to think DA would take that into account but everything he’s ever said speaks otherwise. He’s stated that his job is to get as much talent as possible (implying that this is irrespective of fit or balance) and that it’s the team’s job to then figure that out. So I think he’ll trade for LaVine based solely on whether or not he wants to, and Lauri’s opinion probably does not factor in there at all.

Its a big enough swing I bet he'd check in with Lauri just as a data point. See what he's like as a teammate etc. He'd be stupid not to. He may not ask for approval per se but just what is Lauri's opinion.