Chris Hardwick

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There’s more conclusive proof that it occurred, in general.

Both are obviously bad. I’m not defending either. But this girl knew what he wanted from the get go because he told her what he expected. Maybe she thought she could change him. Maybe she thought it was worth it for the fame. I don’t know. Seems like she could have left when she wanted, and eventually did.

Perhaps she was just vulnerable and in need of personal validation, and he provided the worst type of it? Why cast aspersions on her motives?

 

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Did you get that from his post? Why is rape involved in this thread? Did Chris hardwick rape someone?

Yes, he raped his girlfriend, repeatedly.

 

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The man is always to blame.

One of my favorite blogs is Heteronormative Patriarchy for Men, which regularly discusses abuse from the standpoint of male victims.

 

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At the end of the day there is always two sides to the story. For some reason my gut tells me Chris is not the one to blame here.

Some people who know Chris better than either of us find Chloe's story very believable.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Perhaps she was just vulnerable and in need of personal validation, and he provided the worst type of it? Why cast aspersions on her motives?

Why assume she’s telling the truth? Just because of gender? Because she’s the first one to tell her side?

 

[RandyForRubio]

Yes, he raped his girlfriend, repeatedly.

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Saying you’ll dump somebody if you don’t get sex is a dick move, BUT SHE KNEW OF THIS REQUIREMENT COMING INTO THE RELATIONSHIP!

He didn’t tie her down and force her. She could have left whenever she wanted.

 

[Scramantha]

Most hard core sobriety people tend to be weird as balls. Not exactly sure why that is though.

 

[MVP]

Some people who know Chris better than either of us find Chloe's story very believable.

Still does not mean she is right. If you check some of her other posts she sounds a bit crazy..... I am not psychiatrist by any means but she does not look like very sane person whom I would trust.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ardwick-ENDED-relationship-Chloe-Dykstra.html

This says she tried to text him numerous times trying desperately trying to reconcile after the break up. Why would you do that if you were sexually and emotionally abused? And why would you start talking about abuse 4 years after breakup and not when it is happening?
To me it is classical case of somebody being butt hurt and trying to get back at his ex with fake stories in hopes of ruining his career. Well done Chloe. You got your few minutes of fame. Now lets move on from this.

 

[Zombie]

Sometimes I think we are making great progress with regard to holding men accountable for ****** behavior, and then I come back to jazzfans and realize just how far we still have to go.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Still does not mean she is right. If you check some of her other posts she sounds a bit crazy..... I am not psychiatrist by any means but she does not look like very sane person whom I would trust.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ardwick-ENDED-relationship-Chloe-Dykstra.html

This says she tried to text him numerous times trying desperately trying to reconcile after the break up. Why would you do that if you were sexually and emotionally abused? And why would you start talking about abuse 4 years after breakup and not when it is happening?
To me it is classical case of somebody being butt hurt and trying to get back at his ex with fake stories in hopes of ruining his career. Well done Chloe. You got your few minutes of fame. Now lets move on from this.

Most abuse victims go back, its pretty common.

I would venture to guess that he didnt break any law but that is not really a good basis for right/wrong. Just because he does not deserve jail time does not mean he did nothing wrong or that he cant be punished by people who dont like his behavior. He has the right to be ****** and people have the right to not want to associate with him or give him employment/attention. It sounds like this guy took advantage of his position of power and fame and used it to be an abusive ****** person. I dont think she was perfect in this, nor did she do everything right. Every relationship is a 2 way street. But he still seems like a ****** person and I have no problem with him being shamed by his ****** behavior. People are independently disassociating with him and losing his job or position of power is perfectly reasonable reaction to someone being ******.

 

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Why assume she’s telling the truth? Just because of gender? Because she’s the first one to tell her side?

Because she has nothing to gain by lying, except the suspicion of people who think she is out to gain something they can't identify.

 

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Saying you’ll dump somebody if you don’t get sex is a dick move, BUT SHE KNEW OF THIS REQUIREMENT COMING INTO THE RELATIONSHIP!

He didn’t tie her down and force her. She could have left whenever she wanted.

So, it's only rape if you are physically tied down? Are you sure that's the position you want to go with?

I'm going with this: if a person does not want to have sex, and you bully them into it by whatever means, that is rape.