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Clarkson’s championship value

I believe he's genuinely happy and excited to be in Utah. He has spent his career playing for the tanking teams and terrible coaches after all.
Will he accept a better offer from another club? Sure, who doesn't? But he may decline a slightly better offer and decide to stay.
He must know at this point he probably can't be a starter in this league with the way he defends and rebounds (last in DEFRTG and REB% in 12 games for Utah). But he can be a remarkable 6th man on a contender.
 
Id be pretty shocked. Clarkson is probably a guy who wants to start. He's probably looking at this as an opportunity to prove he can put up points on a winner so he can get paid and start. And basically, if he is performing in this same role come playoff time and putting up the same numbers and the Jazz get past the 2nd round, I doubt the Jazz will be able to afford him.

Perhaps but on what winner would he start?
 
You aren’t going to say one iota about WINNING in your assumption?
Nope. That doesent seem to be a factor for most players. The formula is to get most money and then demand a trade if you become unhappy.
 
And IDK, but the guy who dated a Kardashian doesnt scream "I'm ready to sign in Utah long-term".
 
Nope. That doesent seem to be a factor for most players. The formula is to get most money and then demand a trade if you become unhappy.
Your assumption gets pretty general if you don’t include ANYTHING about winning. While I agree it isn’t as high of a priority for some as for others, I think it is a significant factor for a significant number of players. Winning needs to be in the mix.
 
Your assumption gets pretty general if you don’t include ANYTHING about winning. While I agree it isn’t as high of a priority for some as for others, I think it is a significant factor for a significant number of players. Winning needs to be in the mix.
Winning is a bigger part of the variable because the difference in salary probably tops out at about 15-20%, if that. It’s not like he’ll be choosing $8M in a good situation vs. $19M elsewhere. It’s more like $12 good situation vs. $14 somewhere else (not saying those exact numbers, just stating a point).
 
Mitchell is about to be eligible for a rookie max extension. Gobert is already eligible for a Supermax deal. And everything I think I know about contracts says that two soon-to-be all star appearances are only going to make those $numbers go up. Feels like today’s events basically cement our core group for the next couple years. And guys like Clarkson are the exact types of players who fall off the margins once good teams start paying their dudes.

The way to make up for it is to ask Mitchell to continue to improve in a fairly significant way. Which is incredibly unfair to him, but maybe he’s up for it. And even more importantly Gobert needs to defy the odds completely and sustain his excellence at both ends, through at least the first few years of a HUGE deal. A heavy burden they will be paid handsomely to live up to.

MLE and minimum type dudes will rotate in and out but the ceiling of this team is basically all dependent on those two.
 
If Clarkson continues to be good and wants to stay in Utah, it will be a huge test of how much $$$ the FO is willing to spend.

Basically we might have a good sense of that based off how Clarkson is handled.
 
If Clarkson continues to be good and wants to stay in Utah, it will be a huge test of how much $$$ the FO is willing to spend.

Basically we might have a good sense of that based off how Clarkson is handled.

Absolutely this.

Clarkson’s bird rights will be the opportunity for the franchise to come through with that oft promised “we will be a tax payer if we need to be” narrative.
 
You could make an argument that he wants to get paid, and it’s true. You could make an argument that he wants to start and finish, and it’s true. But there are a few other variables in the equation.

First, I don’t know that anyone else’s offer would be drastically higher than ours would be. If it is, it’s coming from a desperate team. He’s been making about $12M a year in the previous 3 years, and making about $13.5M now, so it’s not like he’s a guy who has yet to get paid. Now you look and see this is his sixth year in the league and previously had spent less than half a year on a playoff team. He’s been the guy putting up big numbers on lottery teams before. There’s no glory in that. So I don’t think we’re losing him to a bottom feeder willing to open up the checkbook for $18M or so. Then you’d have to look at what other playoff teams are willing to offer him a starting role and enough money. I haven’t honestly surveyed that but I’d imagine there aren’t a ton (that are offering a genuine starting spot).

I think it boils down to whether he feels comfortable here and whether he buys in to a 6th man role. If he’s averaging as many points and touches as a sixth man as he got on a crappy team as a starter, then there’s a lot more glory in his current position as he can be a guy winning sixth man of the year and building that resume. Starting on a lottery team won’t bring any recognition. You sell him on getting the Lou Williams status. The only difference is he won’t be closing as much as Lou.

Anyway, outside of a desperate lottery team, I think the money will likely be in a constricted range between the different offers. I think somewhere between $12-15/yr. The question is if we can provide the best environment. I think there’s some positive evidence for that.

If you could extend him, then great.
I think you're right about him being comfortable here. The wild card is what his agent will be selling him once the demand for his services sees the open market this summer.
 
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