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Clarkson is Here to Stay

framer said:
I like Jordan Clarkson. I just don't want 32+ minutes a night of Jordan Clarkson. However if you play him less he will probably be much better in those minutes which may hurt your tank.
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**** it. In this case, hurt the ****ing tank.

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Ainge made 2 bad bets last summer with both JC's. Jazz were likely hoping they would be trade assets at the deadline or this offseason. In hindsight probably should've unloaded Clarkson at the '23 deadline as I'm guessing they could've gotten a few SRP's at that time. Maybe Ryan Smith had a say in that too.

In the big picture they are tanking so it probably doesn't hurt them too much although the better use of the capspace would've been to rent it out for picks.
 
That would be a bad news for the tank. Jordan was leading the Jazz in assists last year. Even if his shot not falling he could be positive because of his playmaking. We have a collection of players whose impact could be greatly multiplied by a competent passer - Kessler, Lauri, Hendricks. Having one more experienced playmaker besides Sexton could easily result in 3-5 more wins, especially against other tanking teams. That could easily be the difference between finishing with the 3rd or 8th worst record.
 
I would like him traded. He need to go to a contender. Maybe a filler on a bigger trade. I believe he will bounce back next year. Good for him bad for the tank. The other jc and his 25m salary need to go asap.
 
jazznik said:
That would be a bad news for the tank. Jordan was leading the Jazz in assists last year. Even if his shot not falling he could be positive because of his playmaking. We have a collection of players whose impact could be greatly multiplied by a competent passer - Kessler, Lauri, Hendricks. Having one more experienced playmaker besides Sexton could easily result in 3-5 more wins, especially against other tanking teams. That could easily be the difference between finishing with the 3rd or 8th worst record.
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Clarkson was really bad last year. He was probably the main reason for losing. He was getting assists but also turning it over a lot and bad turnovers. That said if he goes back to scoring 6th main and isn't trying to create for others as much he will have up and down games but he will by himself win you a handful of games when he's hot. He will also lose you games by himself though. For a team trying to win that's not great for a team trying to lose that's also not great.

His ideal role was scoring for our team when we had very little offense outside Mitchell and solid defense.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Clarkson was really bad last year. He was probably the main reason for losing. He was getting assists but also turning it over a lot and bad turnovers. That said if he goes back to scoring 6th main and isn't trying to create for others as much he will have up and down games but he will by himself win you a handful of games when he's hot. He will also lose you games by himself though. For a team trying to win that's not great for a team trying to lose that's also not great.

His ideal role was scoring for our team when we had very little offense outside Mitchell and solid defense.
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The main reason for losing was playing our inexperienced guys major minutes. Sensibaugh was the 4th worst player in the entire NBA (among those who played significant minutes) by Net Rating, Keyonte, Hendricks and Agbaji were also spectacularly bad.

Clarkson is bad against good teams but he is still a floor raiser: when Utah faces true bottom dwellers like Detroit or Washington having Clarkson with his passing would allow our bench unit to outplay their benches. In the same way having Sexton would pull our starters above whoever other tanking teams would have. It is these wins that are killing you when you are trying to tank.
 
jazznik said:
The main reason for losing was playing our inexperienced guys major minutes. Sensibaugh was the 4th worst player in the entire NBA (among those who played significant minutes) by Net Rating, Keyonte, Hendricks and Agbaji were also spectacularly bad.

Clarkson is bad against good teams but he is still a floor raiser: when Utah faces true bottom dwellers like Detroit or Washington having Clarkson with his passing would allow our bench unit to outplay their benches. In the same way having Sexton would pull our starters above whoever other tanking teams would have. It is these wins that are killing you when you are trying to tank.
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Those guys only played after we pulled the plug on the season.
 
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