Clarkson vs. Burks

[vegas]

JC seems to be on a higher level as far as reading the defense. This would explain one reason why it's easier for Snyder to give him leash and why he passes the eyeball test, but you can't put a finger on it. Still love me some AB.

 

[Deleted member 365]

It feels like Clarkson has a greater shooting range than Burks. I rarely thought a Burks 3 was going in. His shot was so flat. While Clarkson’s 3s seems close every time.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

This is probably not the best way to measure this, but per NBA tracking stats Clarkson has been a fair bit better within ten feet of the basket than Burks his entire career.

I've only seen a couple "bad" shots... and I think some of them went in. He seems to be more under control and has the length to finish over bigger defenders. I think his 3 point shot comes and goes, but I think there was only one forced three I saw.

He's made a couple nice, but basic, passes to Rudy. So far I like what I've seen. I think he runs a nice pick and roll... but he's likely to shoot it like 80% of the time. I think his time with the LOLakers team may have made me label him a knucklehead good volume stats bad team guy. His playoffs on the Lebron team was... really rough. He might be more useful than I initially thought. I've like what Mudiay has given most nights, but there is still some scariness when he has the ball... I'm more comfy with JC at this point. I think it was a good improvement and low cost move.

 

[Isaiah 1:13]

Why do we insist on comparing him to a basically broken player like Burks, why not somebody like Lou Williams? Cause that’s the conversation we should be having. The players know it. Maggette was talking about how highly Kobe regarded Clarkson with the Lakers. Kevin Porter talked about how Clarkson mentored him and helped him read the defense. Mitchell talked about how Clarkson is going to make his life so much easier. The only similarity between clarkson and Burks is they’re both athletic, but Clarkson has good shot mechanics and a high BBIQ.

 

[fishonjazz]

I agree with this here. I think their numbers are similar but their approaches are different. I think the thing that made AB tough was not being a chucker but the ball sticking... he would do well for a while but then he'd go back to sneaking in one or two useless dribbles when the ball was pinging around.. he might not shoot it, but the system wasn't a good fit. He didn't quite get the bench green light like JC is getting, but our bench units were actually pretty good back then... so it makes sense that now Quin may be able to tolerate it more.

The other difference I have seen is JC seems to get the ball in the paint under a little more control and is getting better looks there than AB did... 2 game samples so it may not be real.

I'm really happy for AB as he seems to have gotten in a rythymn and likely carved out a bench role somewhere in the league for the next 5-6 years. You could see how hard he was trying to fit in here and it wasn't a great system for him. I think Quin tried to make it work too. I will always be team AB but think JC might be a better (but not perfect) fit for this team.

Really good, fair post


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[fishonjazz]

Why do we insist on comparing him to a basically broken player like Burks, why not somebody like Lou Williams? Cause that’s the conversation we should be having. The players know it. Maggette was talking about how highly Kobe regarded Clarkson with the Lakers. Kevin Porter talked about how Clarkson mentored him and helped him read the defense. Mitchell talked about how Clarkson is going to make his life so much easier. The only similarity between clarkson and Burks is they’re both athletic, but Clarkson has good shot mechanics and a high BBIQ.

Burks aint broken bro. He is averaging 15.5 points per game, 4.4 rebounds, 3.0 assists, and 1.3 steals per game (29.1 minutes per game) this season.

Nothing amazing but cerainly not broken.


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[Mission Accomplished]

Clarkson has not made it to the dog house ...yet. It seems like a bad place to be some players will never even sniff the dog house no matter what they do on the court. Time will tell if Clarkson gets moved to the doghouse. Players that don't go there seem to be somewhat successful over time just ask Ingles and Niang.

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[Engorged On Unborn Gore]

He didn't quite get the bench green light like JC is getting

Snyder didn't, but why would any coach have given it to him (on a winning team)? I liked Burks a lot, but I question why he deserved that green light.

Burks played like he wanted to present his talent and ability to his friends, and like he was happy to be in the exclusive club that is the NBA. Clarkson plays like he sees nothing but throats out there that he wants to rip out (on the opposing team and in the stands on the road).

This distinction is massive when it comes to building a contender.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Snyder didn't, but why would any coach have given it to him (on a winning team)? I liked Burks a lot, but I question why he deserved that green light.

Burks played like he wanted to present his talent and ability to his friends, and like he was happy to be in the exclusive club that is the NBA. Clarkson plays like he sees nothing but throats out there that he wants to rip out (on the opposing team and in the stands on the road).

This distinction is massive when it comes to building a contender.

I disagree... early AB maybe, but post injury he played like a guy trying to fit into a system that didn't fit his game. I think the opinion of JC is overly high right now because he's the new toy... before we declare this guy to have an amazing IQ and a killer let's give it 15-20 games.

 

[Ellipse]

I've liked what I've seen from Clarkson, but it has been only two games. I may change my mind in two months.

I don't miss Burks.

 

[Isaiah 1:13]

Burks aint broken bro. He is averaging 15.5 points per game, 4.4 rebounds, 3.0 assists, and 1.3 steals per game (29.1 minutes per game) this season.
His shot mechanics are and that’s why he’s so inconsistent IMO. You forgot the hitch? Almost Alonzo Ball territory.


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His shot mechanics are and that’s why he’s so inconsistent IMO. You forgot the hitch? Almost Lonzo Ball territory. I won’t even get into the mental lapses.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Clarkson's mentality seems to more along the line of Lou Williams'.

Burks' wasn't like that with the Jazz. He always seemed to be in his own head and unable to ascend to a killer instinct with regards to his play.

maybe after the injuries, he was a killer in the 4th quarter in Snyder’s first year, then the injuries started. He was playing with a killer instinct. How easy it must be to forget how good he was before the injuries started. He was one of the best 4th quarter players that year before his season was cut short.