Keyonte might have take the next big step
He's got a lot of young guns trying to take his minutes this season
Clayton or Collier?
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He's got a lot of young guns trying to take his minutes this season
This thread is a bit meaningless. Neither Collier, nor Clayton is a starting-level PG in the league at the moment and both of them are pretty unlikely to improve enough to become a quality starter. they could probably become solid backups but the competition to become a backup is very different from competing for a long-term starting position. Personality, locker room presence, ability to stick closely to what coaches want them to do, their fit with the second unit and many other things like that become the deciding factors.
The Jazz will probably keep and develop both of them, bring the actual starting PG and then decide who they should keep between Collier and Clayton as a backup (if any).
The Jazz will probably keep and develop both of them, bring the actual starting PG and then decide who they should keep between Collier and Clayton as a backup (if any).
Clayton is
HadAnEffectHere
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The 18th overall pick is actually very unlikely to be a good starter in the NBA.
Basketball Novice
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I don't see why Collier or Clayton can't become a starting level PG. Collier has some concerning problems but some great strengths to his game and WCJ has looked great in Summer League. If they aren't starter level players, they probably won't stick with the Jazz in the long term.
Sure they can but it is very unlikely. The shooting problems of Collier's magnitude are very, very rarely get fixed for the guards. And how many starting PGs who spent 4 years in college do you know? Lillard (who was also drafted 5th), Brogdon and who else? It is also rare.
Not to be mean, but I dont see how anyone with two working braincells and functioning eyes who has watched NBA basketball the last 5 years thinks Collier is better than Clayton.
You have to be able to shoot. If you cant, you have to be elite in several other areas.
Right now Collier cant shoot and his only skill that is potentially elite is his driving ability. The issue is he cant even make his FT's to capitalize on that driving ability.
He needs to become an elite defender, but he isnt. His really bulky and strong going downhill, but that same bulk seems to limit his lateral mobility defensively.
Clayton is basically better at everything at this point besides downhill driving/foul drawing.
You have to be able to shoot. If you cant, you have to be elite in several other areas.
Right now Collier cant shoot and his only skill that is potentially elite is his driving ability. The issue is he cant even make his FT's to capitalize on that driving ability.
He needs to become an elite defender, but he isnt. His really bulky and strong going downhill, but that same bulk seems to limit his lateral mobility defensively.
Clayton is basically better at everything at this point besides downhill driving/foul drawing.
HeatCheck
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VanVleet spent 4 years in college.
Brunson
It's actually kind of the norm for smaller guards who are good in the NBA. A lot of them tend to be 4 year players.
People who thinks Collier is better are “Contrarians”.
Would you by any chance know what that means?
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