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Coach Rose to Utah?

7StraightIsGreat

7StraightIsGreat

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For the record, I don't think there's anyway in hell that Rose would leave BYU for Utah, but in chatting with some Ute friends there seems to be growing sentiment that Chris Hill would at least give Rose a call to gauge his interest assuming Boylen is fired.

The only reason I find it interesting is because of the timing. Rose is losing Jimmer, who is probably the best player in BYU history and I don't think the Davies situation is helping. Chris Hill would try to sell Rose on the fact that he could stay in-state, continue recruiting Utah/LDS players as well as having a broader recruiting base when it came to non-mormon athletes. Not only that, Rose wouldn't have to worry about whether or not his players are having sex with their girlfriends. Oh yeah, and Rose could coach in the Pac12 as opposed to the WCC.

If for some reason it were to happened, I'm not quite sure how I'd feel. While I think Rose is certainly a good coach and hands-down the best in-state recruiter out of all the in-state Coaches, he's never advanced in the NCAA Tourny without Jimmer. With that being said, he'd certainly be an upgrade over Boylen.
 
This would mean we would never have a coach on Sunday or Monday games. So I vote no.
 
You know he has to be thinking, "If I could get to #3 with this group of guys...." . Jimmer's great and all, but BYU has plenty of guys that shouldn't be playing D-1 ball. I think your reasoning is actually correct, and I'm glad you didn't mention money, because BYU has cash on the sidelines specifically for that reason. They'll pay coaches that are worth paying. But those other elements have to be intriguing to him. Utah would be extremely fortunate to have him.

For BYU obviously it would suck since the head coaches at BYU have to be LDS and that pool can be extremely shallow at times.
 
LogGrad98 said:
This would mean we would never have a coach on Sunday or Monday games. So I vote no.
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I doubt that it would stop him from coaching those games. If he took the Job he would have to know this. Also it's not like it would be that often. Especially Sunday game. Only time it would change anything would be for the NCAA tourney. No way he's skipping those games.

However, I don't think he would take it. At least not right now.
 
gregbroncs said:
I doubt that it would stop him from coaching those games. If he took the Job he would have to know this. Also it's not like it would be that often. Especially Sunday game. Only time it would change anything would be for the NCAA tourney. No way he's skipping those games.

However, I don't think he would take it. At least not right now.
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Of course he'd coach those games. Just like Jimmer isn't going to have any problem playing on Sunday for an NBA team.

I'm with you, I don't think he would take the job even if offered. I actually really like Rose but I'd rather see Utah go in a different direction. It just seems like it would be a messy, drama filled situation if Utah successfully lured him from BYU.
 
Duck Rodgers said:
You know he has to be thinking, "If I could get to #3 with this group of guys...." . Jimmer's great and all, but BYU has plenty of guys that shouldn't be playing D-1 ball. I think your reasoning is actually correct, and I'm glad you didn't mention money, because BYU has cash on the sidelines specifically for that reason. They'll pay coaches that are worth paying. But those other elements have to be intriguing to him. Utah would be extremely fortunate to have him.

For BYU obviously it would suck since the head coaches at BYU have to be LDS and that pool can be extremely shallow at times.
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Obviously, BYU has more than enough money, but I dont' think they'd like to get in a bidding war for Rose. Even when Utah and the Y were both going after Whitt, I believe Utah came in with the highest offer- I could be dead wrong about that but I do seem to remember that being the case.

Again, it's not that BYU couldn't win a bidding war. It's probably just not the way they like to do business.
 
Proven commodity vs. unproven commodity. I think that last sentence is probably spot on. I think BYU is overly conscience about everything they do. Spending big money on a coach would ruffle feathers that they would rather not ruffle. If BYU actually got in that situation, they would probably try to structure the contract so it appeared like he was making much less on the surface.

But the underlying guiding force with BYU athletics right now is that you can't go Independent and suck. You can't go to the WCC and suck. They might have to take more risks going forward if they intend to use their athletic programs as a missionary tool, which all indications suggest they are.
 
Duck Rodgers said:
Is Boylen expected to be canned? What other names are floating out there?
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I've heard stories that Utah's big booster does not want Boylen back and is disgusted with Utah basketball and the lack of attendance in his arena. One of the interesting names I've heard is Ben Howland. Rumor is that he doesn't love UCLA and they aren't thrilled with him anymore. He has Utah roots, and it would be the sexy name that Utah needs. If not Howland, I wouldn't be surprised to see them go after Randy Rahe. He's not a the sexy name, but he is a damn good coach. As for Rose, I joked with a BYU fan co-worker a while back that Utah should try to hire Rose. He didn't think it was as funny as I did.
 
Duck Rodgers said:
You guys should just remarry big Rick. That divorce should have never happened.
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Believer it or not, there's actually some Ute fans thinking/hoping this could happen. I think it would be a drastic mistake. Rehiring a coach almost never results in a return to previous glory. Not only that, Rick's a dick and I think nobody knows this better than Chris Hill. Howland is an interesting name, and living up near Weber State I've seen alot of Randy Rahe. YB is right, he is one hell of a coach and would probably prove to be a strong in-state recruiter once he could go into houses with the Utah/Pac12 brand name under his belt.

This is a big offseason for Utah basketball. IMO I their program has fallen behind all of the in-state schools (Yes, even Weber St). Boylen is all but gone and Utah HAS to make the right hire to get this program some positive traction.
 
Duck Rodgers said:
You guys should just remarry big Rick. That divorce should have never happened.
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I'm sure Chris Hill would love to spend a few more years hearing Majerus talk about going to other schools, hearing complaints from the players that Majerus is verbally abusing them, hearing complaints from parents that their kid was mistreated and belittled just to get them to forfeit their scholarship, and hear stories of Majerus showing them what six inches is. Majerus is a chapter in Utah's back pages, but one that won't be brought back.
 
gregbroncs said:
I doubt that it would stop him from coaching those games. If he took the Job he would have to know this. Also it's not like it would be that often. Especially Sunday game. Only time it would change anything would be for the NCAA tourney. No way he's skipping those games.

However, I don't think he would take it. At least not right now.
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jazzman12 said:
Of course he'd coach those games. Just like Jimmer isn't going to have any problem playing on Sunday for an NBA team.

I'm with you, I don't think he would take the job even if offered. I actually really like Rose but I'd rather see Utah go in a different direction. It just seems like it would be a messy, drama filled situation if Utah successfully lured him from BYU.
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Utah needs to make a serious run at Stew Morrill. I know he has it good up here and the Utes have dabbled at the prospect of him being the coach before, but this time they need to go all out to get him.
 
fatchipper said:
Utah needs to make a serious run at Stew Morrill. I know he has it good up here and the Utes have dabbled at the prospect of him being the coach before, but this time they need to go all out to get him.
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I don's think he wants the pressure of coaching a bigger program than he already is. He's comfortable there and I don't think he will leave until he retires.
 
gregbroncs said:
I don's think he wants the pressure of coaching a bigger program than he already is. He's comfortable there and I don't think he will leave until he retires.
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Agreed. Stew currently has a Top 25 program that flies under the radar, the best home court advantage west of the Mississippi and relatively low expectations. Why would he trade any of that in?
 
fatchipper said:
Utah needs to make a serious run at Stew Morrill. I know he has it good up here and the Utes have dabbled at the prospect of him being the coach before, but this time they need to go all out to get him.
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+1

Stew would be a great hire for the Utes, although I also doubt he wants to leave Logan.


Didn't the Utes make a run at Stew before?
 
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