Coal Aldrich

[bat]

The thing I find funniest is that most of those fans who are scared of drafting another Ostertag, are the same one's complaining about the lack of PT fes gets.

Fes plays more like Ostertag than anyone in the league. Big body who can clog the lane, but has bad hands, no offensive game, is a below average rebounder for his size, and only an average shot blocker.

 

[carolinajazz]

I miss the drama Tag brought, every night, ya know? Cussin at Sloan on the bench, throwin a Coke can at Sloan's head in the locker room when he's givin a talk, alla dat! If this guy can give us that kinda drama, he would be worth the pick for the entertainment value alone, doncha think?

....I don't miss the fact that Tag cost Stockton about 1,000 or so assists with those hands of stone of his! If this next kid center from Kansas is like Tag.....well, Deron Williams is likely to lose at least 1,000 assists, just like Stockton did!

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I am one who says NO TO COLE ALRDICH AND GREG MONROE

This.

When D. Will says we need a couple of pieces, he means that we need a couple of players who are better than the players we already have, not that we need more players. This lottery pick is a chance to add talent to the team. Swing on talent. If we miss, so what? Monroe and Aldrich don't get the Jazz past the 2nd round.

Babbit, George and Whiteside have all-star talent, or at least they have the ability to impact the game. Whether they reach their potential, who knows, but after the top 5 players in this draft are gone, those are the ones we should be looking at.

 

[calijazz]

This.

When D. Will says we need a couple of pieces, he means that we need a couple of players who are better than the players we already have, not that we need more players. This lottery pick is a chance to add talent to the team. Swing on talent. If we miss, so what? Monroe and Aldrich don't get the Jazz past the 2nd round.

Babbit, George and Whiteside have all-star talent, or at least they have the ability to impact the game. Whether they reach their potential, who knows, but after the top 5 players in this draft are gone, those are the ones we should be looking at.

Why does some people act like they know EXACTLY what D-Will thinks and what he wants? It's ridiculous. It's YOUR opinion, don't pretend like it's his. We have no real idea who D-Will wants to the Jazz to draft...

 

[enchilada_style]

Looking back at these draft discussions 3-4 years from now are going to be comical. None of use have a clue what is going to happen with most of these guys, but I get it, it's all to keep us entertained.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If I had to guess Id would say Dwill wants a defensive big who can finish easily around the rim. So I think he would want Aldrich or Whiteside. I think Dwill has enough confidence in our system and our current players offensively.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Why does some people act like they know EXACTLY what D-Will thinks and what he wants? It's ridiculous. It's YOUR opinion, don't pretend like it's his. We have no real idea who D-Will wants to the Jazz to draft...

I take it for what its worth, Dwill asking for a few more players to win. That's basically pretty obvious. We've known this for years.

Whether or not he's asking for a shotblcoking center and a better wing or a backup point or something else is beyond me. But I think it's pretty obvious from watching these playoffs that the Jazz are missing a few pieces. Whether or not they're ALL star pieces, I'm not sure. But the Jazz certainly could add some NBA players to their roster starting at the 5 spot. Fess and Kosta aren't Bynum, Lamar, or Gasol. Nor are they KG, Baby, and Sheed.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Just imagine if Whiteside actually turns out to be half the player that Jermaine was and if we could add Tomic next year. We could have a big frontline in the near future. We'd go from being one of the most undersized ones to one of the biggest ones.

 

[Hopper]

We don't really need any big guys, the way I figure it. We just need summa our guys to start wearin platform shoes with, like, 6" soles, ya know?

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Williams was saying that the Jazz are a playoff team, but not a championship team. They need to bring in a couple more pieces, and until they do, they'll be around a 4 or 5 seed, which is a challenge. That's a pretty close paraphrase to what he said.

Lack of depth isn't the issue. It's the lack of talent on the front line and on the wing that prevent the Jazz from competing with real contending teams. Miles, Millsap, Matthews and Fess are nice role players, but the Jazz need another player that changes the game. This draft is a good opportunity to go for talent. If it doesn't pan out, the Jazz don't lose anything. If the current group of players lose Boozer, they're close to a .500 team. Getting Aldrich, Udoh, Henry or Hayward won't change that.

 

[calijazz]

I take it for what its worth, Dwill asking for a few more players to win. That's basically pretty obvious. We've known this for years.

Whether or not he's asking for a shotblcoking center and a better wing or a backup point or something else is beyond me. But I think it's pretty obvious from watching these playoffs that the Jazz are missing a few pieces. Whether or not they're ALL star pieces, I'm not sure. But the Jazz certainly could add some NBA players to their roster starting at the 5 spot. Fess and Kosta aren't Bynum, Lamar, or Gasol. Nor are they KG, Baby, and Sheed.

Exactly, I know D-Will isn't satisfied with what they have and rightfully so. My point was nobody knows exactly who D-Will wants besides maybe his teammates and management...and that may not even be the case. But I think we're basically on the same page here...

 

[Stifle Tower]

This.

When D. Will says we need a couple of pieces, he means that we need a couple of players who are better than the players we already have, not that we need more players. This lottery pick is a chance to add talent to the team. Swing on talent. If we miss, so what? Monroe and Aldrich don't get the Jazz past the 2nd round.

Babbit, George and Whiteside have all-star talent, or at least they have the ability to impact the game. Whether they reach their potential, who knows, but after the top 5 players in this draft are gone, those are the ones we should be looking at.

I agree. Aldrich is the safest pick. But do you think he stops Bynum or Gasol? He'll get eaten alive by those two.
In many ways, Hassan reminds me of Bynum. Yes, Bynum came out of HS, but Whiteside doesn't have much more experience than that. Both are/were extremely raw. Deron was one of those who said we needed a shot-blocker inside. Draft Hassan and tell Deron to take him under his wing in terms of practicing hard, adjusting to the NBA, etc.

If the risk is too great for the FO to stomach, then go with Babbitt or George. Jazz will need a starter at SF once AK gets traded/leaves. I don't want AK back at any price. He's not as quick as he once was and he consistently gets hurt. Babbitt or George would give the Jazz a 3-man rotation of players at the wing who can all shoot out to the 3-pt line. That's one way to beat the Lakers; if you can't get inside, you just shoot over the top.

I'm hoping the Jazz roll the dice with Hassan. Risky, yes. But if he becomes anything like Camby in 2-3 years, the Jazz would contend for a title (if they also get another asset from AK's expiring or re-sign Carlos).

Jazz need game-changers, not just adequate starters. IMO, Wall, Turner, Cousins and Favors are the former type. Babbitt, George and Whiteside have that potential. Monroe, Davis, Aldrich and Patterson will be nice players, but complementary types. They're not going to be dominant at their positions.