Coal Aldrich

[gregbroncs]

If the Aldrich is there when the Jazz draft you can bet they will probably take him. His a lower risk, lower reward player which is what they like. The jazz feel like they can't make a mistake so they go the safe route. Aldrich would be the safest bet at this spot and so they will probably take him.

 

[Stifle Tower]

If the Aldrich is there when the Jazz draft you can bet they will probably take him. His a lower risk, lower reward player which is what they like. The jazz feel like they can't make a mistake so they go the safe route. Aldrich would be the safest bet at this spot and so they will probably take him.

And we'll be doomed to win 50 games per year for the next 3 seasons and lose in the WC finals each time. Then Deron takes his ball and goes home once his contract is up. He's not like Stockton and Malone who had blind loyalty to Sloan and Larry H.

 

[gregbroncs]

And we'll be doomed to win 50 games per year for the next 3 seasons and lose in the WC finals each time. Then Deron takes his ball and goes home once his contract is up. He's not like Stockton and Malone who had blind loyalty to Sloan and Larry H.

I don't disagree. But they have done nothing to tell me they will do otherwise. They have taken some risks but for the most part they take the safe route.

 

[calijazz]

Lack of depth isn't the issue. It's the lack of talent on the front line and on the wing that prevent the Jazz from competing with real contending teams. Miles, Millsap, Matthews and Fess are nice role players, but the Jazz need another player that changes the game. This draft is a good opportunity to go for talent. If it doesn't pan out, the Jazz don't lose anything. If the current group of players lose Boozer, they're close to a .500 team. Getting Aldrich, Udoh, Henry or Hayward won't change that.

Again, that's YOUR opinion. D-Will could like all of those players you listed for all we know...maybe D-Will doesn't want to wait for Whiteside to possibly develop into something in the future. Maybe he wants someone who will help him win more right now? No one knows for sure.

IMO, D-Will might be gone by the time Whiteside becomes any good, if ever...

 

[infection]

No deal. Aldrich may be getting locked up in South America https://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/11/peru.murder.case/index.html?hpt=T2

 

[billyshelby]

This is my thing with Aldrich: A crappy team should definitely draft the kid at 9. They need talent everywhere, they need a guy that can help, they can't risk a bust. They want low risk guys that will almost definitely contribute in some way. We're not a crappy team. We're sitting at 9. The idea should be to pick the highest ceiling player possible with the lowest acceptable risk. Under no circumstances will Aldrich ever be the highest ceiling possible, lowest acceptable risk available. But we should be taking much more risk than the usual team drafting at 9.

 

[InGameStrategy]

The thing I find funniest is that most of those fans who are scared of drafting another Ostertag, are the same one's complaining about the lack of PT fes gets.

I'm not sure that there are too many fans that fit your description. I'm not one of them, because I'm not scared about drafting Cole Aldrich, and I wasn't scared about drafting Whiteside (until the day before yesterday . . . ). Aldrich has better work ethic and shooting (assuming he doesn't get blocked) than the Big O. But he also looks significantly weaker than Fes is and Tag was, and CA has 30-60 fewer pounds of weight.

Fes plays more like Ostertag than anyone in the league. Big body who can clog the lane, but has bad hands, no offensive game, is a below average rebounder for his size, and only an average shot blocker.

Fortunately Fes has had fewer minutes in three years than Tag had in his first. Given that he made some progress in the playoffs, and was already a net asset on the court during the playoffs despite his limited offense and non-dominating defense, Fes has significant room to improve (especially if he gets court time, like he did in the playoffs), and the extent of the upside on Fesenko is not fully confirmed.

 

[InGameStrategy]

I can understand only two concerns about Aldrich that a lot of people have on this board: his shooting form and his limited upside.

Those aren't small concerns.

It's possible that his shooting form could be fixed. But upside is one of the most important factors in selecting an NBA draftee. Unfortunately Utah probably wants someone who can contribute while Deron is still here, so I could see them taking a wing (given that wings typically require less development time), or Aldrich (because he'll likely be most NBA ready).

I predict that by December, Aldrich will be ahead of Koufos in the rotation. The question is whether he'll be ahead of Fes or Okur.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

And we'll be doomed to win 50 games per year for the next 3 seasons and lose in the WC finals each time. Then Deron takes his ball and goes home once his contract is up. He's not like Stockton and Malone who had blind loyalty to Sloan and Larry H.

So what's the obvious, unsafe route that will inevitably lead us past the Lakers and every other Western Conference team and to the NBA Finals, and I presume in your opinion, a ring as well?

 

[TheMulletMutilator]

So what's the obvious, unsafe route that will inevitably lead us past the Lakers and every other Western Conference team and to the NBA Finals, and I presume in your opinion, a ring as well?

By trading Kosta and a future number 2 for Robin Lopez... What? The Lakers did it with Gasol for Kwame and a future draft pick. Thanks David Stern for letting a deal like that go through.

 

[calijazz]

Those aren't small concerns.

It's possible that his shooting form could be fixed. But upside is one of the most important factors in selecting an NBA draftee. Unfortunately Utah probably wants someone who can contribute while Deron is still here, so I could see them taking a wing (given that wings typically require less development time), or Aldrich (because he'll likely be most NBA ready).

I predict that by December, Aldrich will be ahead of Koufos in the rotation. The question is whether he'll be ahead of Fes or Okur.

It's one of the most important factors if that's what you're looking for. If you're satisfied with getting a solid starter for a decade with the #9 pick (which I am), it isn't as important. If you want to take the risk on a project that could potentially be better in the long run, upside is important. Unfortunately, there aren't very many NBA ready players with a lot of upside, so you gotta pretty much pick one or the other. At the 9th pick, I'll take more NBA ready over a project with upside every time. But, that's just my opinion obviously...

But in my opinion, a player's upside should one of many factors. I think how a player fits in with a team and fills weaknesses should be most important, unless a special occasion arose (like if the Jazz landed the top pick in draft).

 

[billyshelby]

It's one of the most important factors if that's what you're looking for. If you're satisfied with getting a solid starter for a decade with the #9 pick (which I am), it isn't as important. If you want to take the risk on a project that could potentially be better in the long run, upside is important. Unfortunately, there aren't very many NBA ready players with a lot of upside, so you gotta pretty much pick one or the other. At the 9th pick, I'll take more NBA ready over a project with upside every time. But, that's just my opinion obviously...

But in my opinion, a player's upside should one of many factors. I think how a player fits in with a team and fills weaknesses should be most important, unless a special occasion arose (like if the Jazz landed the top pick in draft).

No. If you're already talented, you look to improve your team through FA and trade. If you suck, you look to the draft to add contributors. We're in a golden position to roll the dice with the most talented players of this year's draft class. We can fail with the pick and still be OK where typical teams drafting 9th can't be so risky. We need to target a high ceiling player. That doesn't mean we just gamble. But it means we don't settle for low ceiling contributors.