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Collin Cowherd's Rock Band Bracket

How old are you? I don't mean that in a condescending way, I'm just wondering what your memory of 1987-92 is. That is where U2 made their name. If all you knew was U2 of today, I would completely understand your disagreement with my including them in the discussion.

Yeah man, I'm 23... So I think we've hit the nail on the head there.
 
The thing that U2 has going against it is that they are still making music and with each album, they get further away from where they started, but that's just what the Beatles did. I don't think it's a bad thing.

I don't think their progression has been that linear.

My relationship with U2 is completely atypical. I think I've posted before that my favorite U2 albums were "Rattle and Hum" "Zooropa" and "Pop." The latter two in particular are pretty far removed from something like "The Unforgettable Fire." Of course Zooropa and Pop were also widely considered failures. I thought it was pretty widely acknowledged that U2 purposely tried to go back to their classic sound starting around 2000.

I don't think that's similar to the Beatles progression path at all. If anything U2 backtracked significantly when it didn't get positive feedback to doing something outside of audience expectations.
 
Just as a side note, U2 formed in '76. They were signed to Island records around 1980, I believe. Granted, they really hit their stride in the mid-late 80's, but they have actually been around longer than many people realize.
 
I don't think their progression has been that linear.

My relationship with U2 is completely atypical. I think I've posted before that my favorite U2 albums were "Rattle and Hum" "Zooropa" and "Pop." The latter two in particular are pretty far removed from something like "The Unforgettable Fire." Of course Zooropa and Pop were also widely considered failures. I thought it was pretty widely acknowledged that U2 purposely tried to go back to their classic sound starting around 2000.

I don't think that's similar to the Beatles progression path at all. If anything U2 backtracked significantly when it didn't get positive feedback to doing something outside of audience expectations.

I think YB's main point, and correct e if I'm wrong YB, is that U2's stuff, album to album is vastly different. Was their evolution linear? No, you make a valid point. But they evolved (or devolved) album to album, for better or worse.
 
Just for ***** and giggs, if I had to choose three bands for a desert island, they would surely be The Beatles, Zeppelin and U2. In what order I do not know. Probably Zeppelin, The Beatles, and then U2.
 
Queen is not even in the discussion when debating "Greatest Rock and Roll Band Ever". They were great musicians and Freddie Mercury was as good a singer as there's been. But they had one great album. Just one. They had some other great songs, but best ever should have more than one great album. My mind is pretty closed when it comes to the title of greatest RnR band ever, but I will agree that cases can be made for The Stones, Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, and U2. Any other arugments are null and void in my opinion.

Agree to disagree. I would qualify Queen, Queen II, Sheer Heart Attack, Night at the Opera, The Game, and Innuendo as great albums. NATO is the only one that stands against The Wall and Dark Side of the Moon, but the rest blow away everything else Pink Floyd ever did.

How can you talk about great albums and qualify The Stones, they were a great band who made great hit, but I haven't heard one Stones album all the way through that made me **** myself.
 
One thing you gotta understand, Floyd's got a handful of albums considered essential, not just the two most famous ones. My friend who's a huge Floyd guy swears by Animals, for what its worth. I haven't listened to it.
 
One thing you gotta understand, Floyd's got a handful of albums considered essential, not just the two most famous ones. My friend who's a huge Floyd guy swears by Animals, for what its worth. I haven't listened to it.

I like Pink Floyd, but one thing about PF, is if you're not trying to go to sleep or get high... pink floyd can't really do that much for you. All other great bands in the building, cover every end of the spectrum...
When was the last time you heard Pink Floyd at a sporting event.
 
Animals is under appreciated, for sure. But what about Wish You Were Here? I think that album is as complete as any Queen album. Certainly not obscure.

Pink Floyd is not for everyone, especially the early Syd Barrett stuff. But you can't argue that they aren't an important institution in rock history.
 
How can you talk about great albums and qualify The Stones, they were a great band who made great hit, but I haven't heard one Stones album all the way through that made me **** myself.

From "Beggar's Banquet" through "Exile On Main Street", the Rolling Stones had one of the greatest album runs ever. I could make a case that "Let It Bleed" is the best rock album ever. Try it out someday. It's $5 this month on Amazon mp3.
 
I think YB's main point, and correct e if I'm wrong YB, is that U2's stuff, album to album is vastly different. Was their evolution linear? No, you make a valid point. But they evolved (or devolved) album to album, for better or worse.

That's pretty much the point. Kicky was right in that U2 abandoned their Euro Disco sound of the 90's to reconnect with their audience, but I still think that the content of "No Line on the Horizon" is different from anything from their pre-Achtung Baby days. Maybe money has mellowed their political bent, maybe age, but they are not the same as they were 25 years ago. It's not lineal, but it's noticeable.
 
From "Beggar's Banquet" through "Exile On Main Street", the Rolling Stones had one of the greatest album runs ever. I could make a case that "Let It Bleed" is the best rock album ever. Try it out someday. It's $5 this month on Amazon mp3.

A few years back when I first became re-interested in Classic Rock I purchased the those albums and some others, and was surprised at how many songs I had a casual knowledge of, that were actually Stones classics. To argue that the Stones are not Rock Gods, is to argue that the Earth is Flat. It makes for an interesting conversation, but ultimately doesn't hold up. The Beatles (and I love them too) wanted to hold your hand, but the Stones wanted to spend the night together.
 
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