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Collin Sexton traded to Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic

Here are the reasons (I'm not saying they are good reasons) to make the trade vs just cutting Sexton:

- Because Sexton wouldn't agree to a buyout
- Because you think you can flip Nurkic at the deadline
- Because you want to help make Charlotte better (less tanking competition)

I'm pretty sure every deal we've done where we received a 2nd was JZ and every trade where we've failed to pick up a 2nd or given them away for seemingly nothing is DA. I don't think DA cares about 2nds at all.
You can just cut him if he doesn't agree to buy out. You won't save much/any money but you will save the second... if that's what you want.
 
You can just cut him if he doesn't agree to buy out. You won't save much/any money but you will save the second... if that's what you want.

Dumb counterpoint.....You don't want to waive Sexton because you can't use his salary in a trade later. But you also can't sit him/send him home because he's Collin Sexton. Maybe you can bench/send Nurkic away? Keep the trade option open w/o the messy benching situation.

Idk....seems like we just got a very expensive Eubanks and paid for it :(
 
You can just cut him if he doesn't agree to buy out. You won't save much/any money but you will save the second... if that's what you want.

Now you are talking about the difference in cost between hopefully a mid second round pick vs whatever contract we pick up. Also it could be useful to have the Nurkic contract in place for a future deal.

Again, maybe not a good reason, but a reason.
 
Dumb counterpoint.....You don't want to waive Sexton because you can't use his salary in a trade later. But you also can't sit him/send him home because he's Collin Sexton. Maybe you can bench/send Nurkic away? Keep the trade option open w/o the messy benching situation.

Idk....seems like we just got a very expensive Eubanks and paid for it :(
This just seems way too convoluted. I think the truth is much more simple - the Ainges like Nurkic A LOT MORE than most of us.
 
This just seems way too convoluted. I think the truth is much more simple - the Ainges like Nurkic A LOT MORE than most of us.

And that truth much more easily explained. You could make the argument that (on paper) Nurkic is better than Sexton. And we needed a C more than another small guard. I understand valuing PT for our young guards, don't understand prioritizing wins right now.
 
And that truth much more easily explained. You could make the argument that (on paper) Nurkic is better than Sexton. And we needed a C more than another small guard. I understand valuing PT for our young guards, don't understand prioritizing wins right now.

We are really gonna go with the angle that Nurkic is better than Sexton? Every analyst that has discussed this deal would disagree.
 
I said that you could make the argument (on paper) that Nurkic is better than Sexton. But that's not my own personal opinion.
Don't think Jazz traded Sexton for Nurkic cause Nurkic is better
Jazz had too many guards and no backup center
Sexton was odd man out
Does not seem like a fair trade but Austin is running the show now and this may be the first of many moves he makes
 
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And that truth much more easily explained. You could make the argument that (on paper) Nurkic is better than Sexton. And we needed a C more than another small guard. I understand valuing PT for our young guards, don't understand prioritizing wins right now.
My beef with this thing is... for this to make sense... you need both Jazz FO and Charlotte FO to believe it(that Nurkic>Sexton)... and to believe that the other one believes it.

The Hornets got a first for taking Nurkic just 5 months ago. They must have convinced the Suns that they think Nurkic is trash to be able to get that return for absorbing Nurkic... and then 25 mediocre games later somehow Nurkic is able to fetch you a Sexton AND another pick... This is my biggest beef. You have to sense the mood in the room. You have to at least have some cursory understanding about how those players are valued in the league. Maybe you have understanding of how Sexton is valued because you have been trying to trade him... but how the hell do you not know that Nurkic was widely considered negative contract? This is more about the process of how they got there. This reminds me of the Bogdanovic trade where everybody expected us to get a 1st+ in return... and all we got is Kelly Olynyk.
 
My beef with this thing is... for this to make sense... you need both Jazz FO and Charlotte FO to believe it(that Nurkic>Sexton)... and to believe that the other one believes it.

The Hornets got a first for taking Nurkic just 5 months ago. They must have convinced the Suns that they think Nurkic is trash to be able to get that return for absorbing Nurkic... and then 25 mediocre games later somehow Nurkic is able to fetch you a Sexton AND another pick... This is my biggest beef. You have to sense the mood in the room. You have to at least have some cursory understanding about how those players are valued in the league. Maybe you have understanding of how Sexton is valued because you have been trying to trade him... but how the hell do you not know that Nurkic was widely considered negative contract? This is more about the process of how they got there. This reminds me of the Bogdanovic trade where everybody expected us to get a 1st+ in return... and all we got is Kelly Olynyk.

Yeah....anyways you slice it, it's hard to ignore that we just got fleeced in the negotiation aspect. Just trying to mental gymnastics my way into describing how our FO thinks we're in a either position than before.

I was about to mention the KO trade and it's similarities. I think it may also be the case where we traded for the better player (despite people thinking Bogey was better), but it came at a time where it didn't really make sense to desire a better player.
 
Fairly sure Klutch is the mastermind here especially when you consider both Nurk and Sexton are Klutch clients. They likely believe Charlotte is a better spot for Sexton heading into a contract year. Just my guess though.

Hopefully now they find a spot for Clarkson even if it just means a buyout/cap savings for the Jazz.
Agree. AA wanted to move Sexton, but Sexton probably wanted to get traded as well. I’m sure he talked about his situation with his agent. He saw what the Jazz’s plans are for next season, with our roster full of young players. Same with Collins. Wouldn’t be surprising if he wants to move on.
 
I think so. Klutch reps several players on Charlotte including Bridges. Not sure about Lamelo but they definitely rep Lonzo. Rich was busy this weekend with the LeBron option, the Lonzo deal, and Sexton/Nurk trades.
LaMelo's agent is Raymond Brothers.
 
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