Conley is a chemistry problem and we should trade him

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm probably in the minority here but I don't think CP3 resolves the issue. Do we have CP3 come off the bench? Are we going to put CP3 in the starting lineup and have many of the same issues we have with Conley? Everyone can use the same arguments they did when we were acquiring Conley that they can with CP3, but I personally don't see how it resolves anything. I think I'd try to get Kevin Love over CP3 and I don't even want Kevin Love that bad.

CP can guard bigger guys so both guys are small but its very different. CP has played at a high level in four different place with four different types of teams... his game is more malleable.

I think CP just a much better player... only question is durability. You absolutely start him. He played with and made another ball dominant wing great with Harden... he ran lob city and was great with Capela. If teams deny the roll and hug the shooters he will murder the mid range... literally like the best in the league.

CP is a savant and the Point God... Mike was a borderline all star... its a massive difference.

 

[LogGrad98]

OK we $hit the bed last night but is it really panic and do stupid stuff time? The guys aren't robots so maybe let's give them a little slack.

This conversation about replacing Conley has been going on a lot longer than last night (in general, not meaning any specific thread). Where have you been?

 

[homeytennis]

Yeah I know he's not everyone's fav right now but there was plenty of blame to go around for our fine showing and Conley stunk I get that. But how about coach? At some point last night he needed to make some adjustments and didn't. Or how about letting Morgan, Tucker, NWG, Oni, JWF and Brantley get some serious burn? The result couldn't have been worse than an L.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

CP can guard bigger guys so both guys are small but its very different. CP has played at a high level in four different place with four different types of teams... his game is more malleable.

I think CP just a much better player... only question is durability. You absolutely start him. He played with and made another ball dominant wing great with Harden... he ran lob city and was great with Capela. If teams deny the roll and hug the shooters he will murder the mid range... literally like the best in the league.

CP is a savant and the Point God... Mike was a borderline all star... its a massive difference.

To add on... last year was the year CP supposedly fell off... his stats are close or better than Mike's stats last year... in what was one of the best seasons of his career. One played on a playoff team the other on a lotto team.

CP is just a much better player... his contract is the only thing that is worse.

 

[SCS]

It would really only be CP imo.

Agreed. And honestly I don't see the OKC front office having any interest. I get that it saves them money. But they threw an unexpected right hook to the head of their fans last offseason that had a lot of fans hot at them. Now they are smelling like a rose and looking like a playoff team. Do they really want to press their luck to save a buck? I don't think so. I mean, I think they'd trade CP3 for the right package that they could properly sell to the fanbase. But Mike Conley? How do they sell that? "Okay peeps we're going to trade one older PG for another. It might just screw up our chemistry this season and cost us a playoff spot. But hey we're saving a buck!"

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Agreed. And honestly I don't see the OKC front office having any interest. I get that it saves them money. But they threw an unexpected right hook to the head of their fans last offseason that had a lot of fans hot at them. Now they are smelling like a rose and looking like a playoff team. Do they really want to press their luck to save a buck? I don't think so. I mean, I think they'd trade CP3 for the right package that they could properly sell to the fanbase. But Mike Conley? How do they sell that? "Okay peeps we're going to trade one older PG for another. It might just screw up our chemistry this season and cost us a playoff spot. But hey we're saving a buck!"

My idea would really be Conley to NY... expirings to OKC. The fans have seen Presti raise a team of KD, Harden, and Russ... they might be patient. They'd still make the playoffs and could do some sign and trade maneuvers with Gallo and maybe move Adams to stack more assets.

They've seen the process work. They may not do it, but they'd be wise to push towards the future... next year I doubt they want to retain a 32 year old Gallo at sizeable money... CP gets another year older. They have SGA who is nice... they have a lot of picks which is nice... but they kind of need to bottom out and get the high picks if they want to build something truly great. This current version will have run its course soon.

 

[Agent#00]

I want to see more Mudiay out there, he deserves it. He played well after the arrival of Clarkson and the bench became a weapon.

Let Mudiay and Conley fight for their minutes, he who plays better plays longer.

 

[sahlensguy]

I want to see more Mudiay out there, he deserves it. He played well after the arrival of Clarkson and the bench became a weapon.

Let Mudiay and Conley fight for their minutes, he who plays better plays longer.

He played well and so did Clarkson and so did the team. Is there a correlation between MC's return and the drop-off of Clarkson and also of the team?

Not sure, but the bench misses the hungry toughness that Mudiay brought.

 

[sgjazzfan]

He played well and so did Clarkson and so did the team. Is there a correlation between MC's return and the drop-off of Clarkson and also of the team?

Not sure, but the bench misses the hungry toughness that Mudiay brought.

I'm not sure there is a correlation. Jazz didn't play well for a good week after Conley got hurt (more to do with trading for Clarkson, cutting Green and Benching Davis) and they played well for the 3-4 games Conley has been back until last night. It was 1 game they played poorly against a team they notoriously have struggled against, after the Kobe trajedy (remember that Houston already played) and against a team that the Jazz had no gameplan for since they were missing 3 starters. Lets see how the next week goes, 1 game is not a pattern.

 

[fishonjazz]

CP's such a great pick and roll player and has such a high basketball IQ that I don't really see any reason why he wouldn't be a fit in Quins system.

Can be great defensively too. Strong as hell.



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[fishonjazz]

I hate his stupid nerdy dumb *** face but yeah, I'd love to get CP3. Problem is I feel like he'd take away from Donovan. He would want to run the point 30 min a game.

Harden has the highest usage in the NBA and he did fine with him

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[fishonjazz]

We would be giving OKC financial flexibility to go along with their young assets and pics to be a force for years to come. I'd like the idea more if OKC wasn't in the west. A big price to pay for CP3 who may or may not be the difference.

Maybe we could entice a pick from them?

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