Conspiracy Theory Corner

[HermanG]

It's just so rare teams dont re-sign their RFA who they picked top 3 overall and has shown improvement.

True. Its a positive problem but they cant give out max entensions like candy as they got too many of those top picks.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

And let's say you trade for Ingram/Williams with the packages I said and it goes horribly wrong.

You trade Lauri in the off-season now that he is under full control, you don't re-sign Ingram, and you only have Williams 13 million on the books vs Clarkson/Collins being owed 36 million. You tank for Boozer/Dybantsa in 2026 and go from there.

Ultimately the only asset you lost of any value is Walker Kessler and very few of us are that high on him overall.

 

[idiot]

Currently the Pelicans only have Theiss and Missi as centers. I would guess Theiss is the projected starter currently.

Think they just signed Trey Jemison off waivers. Played 573 minutes with 14 starts for bad teams last year.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think Kessler has to be in the deal for NO. Collins and Kessler for Ingram we roll with Eubanks at center and Flip. I am definitely a no on Ingram but it’s not a hell no. I need to see the whole picture first.

 

[fishonjazz]

All recent championship teams had good defense: Boston, Denver, Milwaukee. There is one good defender on the Jazz now, Kessler, and he is seriously discussed as part of the deal for Ingram. The team featuring Lauri, Ingram, Keyonte and Sexton is going nowhere and getting killed defensively in the first round of the playoffs (if they make it). Ainge is not stupid, the two Boston championship teams that he built were very good defensively. He will not go for expensive, defensively challenged core with poor playmaking.

Agreed

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[fishonjazz]

If no team wants to pay him that much money, then he won't get that much money.

If we acquire him in a trade then here are the scenarios:
A) He plays so well that he is worth the money and we have a great player locked up for the future (Best Case scenario)
B) He plays so well that he is worth the money and then chooses to sign somewhere else in free agency (would hurt pretty bad)
B) He doesn't play well enough to earn the money, and someone pays him anyway (not our problem),
C) He doesn't play well enough to earn the money and we sign him for what he's worth.
D) He doesn't play well enough to earn the money, but we pay him anyway (Worst Case Scenario, but also very unlikely imo)

If the acquisition cost is cheap enough, then it might be worth the risk.

If the acquisition cost is really just Collins and a first then what you are really balancing is the benefit of getting off of Collins contract and the possibility of adding a significant piece to our puzzle against a first round pick and the risk of losing our 2025 pick to OKC for a guy we end up not wanting long term.

I love the 2025 draft, and so that is a tough decision for me, but I'm starting to like the 2026 draft even better and so if it doesn't work and we had to pivot to going all in for 2026 then that might not be so bad. If it works, and we don't have to endure all of the losing, that is very tempting.

All this is true. Good post.

For me, I still would rather get a better player than Ingram who is also much younger and much cheaper. So that is the route I would choose

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[fishonjazz]

How many players in this draft will be top 20 players at any point in their career and how long will it take them to become that?

The reality might be that Lauri takes another step, Sexton takes another step, Walker takes a big step, and the the rest of the players also progress. The fact might be the Jazz are too good to tank.

In this case we would have to resort to a little


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[fishonjazz]

Tanking with Lauri is potentially problematic because I don't think you can just flip a switch and we're going to be good in 2026.

We are talking about flipping that switch right now though right?

Wouldn't we still have hella assets next summer to do what we are talking about doing right now?

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[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think Kessler has to be in the deal for NO. Collins and Kessler for Ingram we roll with Eubanks at center and Flip. I am definitely a no on Ingram but it’s not a hell no. I need to see the whole picture first.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPQmkpQI-R0&ab_channel=TomaszKordylewski

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Robert Williams has had an entire year to rehab. He may be ready to be healthy?

His advanced stats are just stupid, especially in the playoffs. He's an elite defender who has been hidden by consistent injuries.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc1SkY9SEp0&ab_channel=MichaelPina

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Is there anyway to sign Okoro (let's say it will have to be 3/45 for Cleveland not to match) while trading Walker/Collins for Ingram, trading for Clarkson/Sensabaugh for Williams and R&E Lauri?