Controversial Trade Idea: Draft Steven Adams and trade Kanter for a high 2014 pick.

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

This isn't the worst draft ever. It's a deep draft. There just isn't anyone who really deserves to go #1 or #2.

For reference, Nicola Vucevic had a 30/20 game and multiple 20/20 games last year. He was picked in the middle of the first round in 2011. I think Adams is going to be a beast on par with Kanter and Vucevic. If he's available, he'd be a good pick up. We'd only then trade one of our bigs opportunistically for a 2014 lotto pick that could net us an elite scorer.

BTW, Vucevic averaged 21/16 in his final 5 games. If Kanter did that we'd be throwing a luau.

 

[zbone]

You people are nuts.

I would trade favors before kanter. Have you seen the playoffs this year? Offensively skilled bigs are the most valuable force in the NBA. What would memphis be without Z bo? spurs without duncan? indy without hibbert? if okc had just had kanter they would still be playing right now. instead, all their bigs were defensively gifted but liabilities on the other end.

Offensive bigs are great... And they are at a premium. Kanter, in the next 2 years, could easily become one of the best bigs in the entire league. Seriously, ask yourselves, does Z-Bo really have much more talent than kanter? When you need a shot to stop a run? Dump it inside for him to hammer it home. Need an anchor for your offense? He's the guy. Need someone to get the other team in foul trouble? Get him the rock and let him get to work.

Favors? Still looks clueless on offense. His defense? It's ok. He can block shots sometimes when he isn't fouling. But you can find long athletic bigs who can block shots and suck offensively in every draft and summer free agency. Ibaka, chandler, Larry sanders, bird man, etc.

You don't find that with offensively skilled bigs. Dirk, Duncan, z bo, hibbert, etc.

I agree but you need Durants and Lebrons to be a perennial contender. Some say 2014 is loaded with those. I would trade Kanter for a superstar.

 

[Hotdog]

1 - You can't guarantee the worth of the pick. In other words, you can't trade for a "high 2014 pick" unless it's at the end of next season, and who knows what happens between now and then. I'm pretty sure you're talking about getting the pick now, in which case, you can't guarantee the value of the pick. Say you trade Phoenix for their unprotected pick (if that's even possible), what if they overacheive and get a .500 record? Great move.

2 - Young players with boundless potential and don't see the floor don't have a lot of league-wide value. They are valued most (by far) by their own teams and fans. I don't know why another team would do this, even if the proposal made any sense.

3 - Steven Adams wouldn't replace what Kanter does. He might replace what Favors does. If having 0 post presence in the future is something you're interested in, then this trade looks great, even if the proposal made any sense. Forget how much a good post game can blow up some teams' entire defensive scheme and that the final four of this years playoffs relied moderately to heavily on post play.

1 - You can't guarantee the worth of the pick. In other words, you can't trade for a "high 2014 pick" unless it's at the end of next season, and who knows what happens between now and then. I'm pretty sure you're talking about getting the pick now, in which case, you can't guarantee the value of the pick. Not only is this contingent on how the team plays next season (and god forbidding, Kanter erupt and make them a much better team [in addition to whatever high pick they got this year]), the lottery changes things for everyone quite a bit. The best odds you have at getting a #1 pick is 25% and that's with having the worst record in the NBA. So unless your plan is secretly to make the Jazz the worst team in the league, and again, hope that 25% becomes the pick (which would be the first time in, what, 2 decades?), sorry, I just got lost. And then there's bust potential and there are very few sure things in the NBA. You never trade one in hand for two in the bush. This might be trading two in hand for one in the bush. This is betting your car, hitting on 16 and trying to get blackjack (with the dealer showing 6) or putting your bet on green: maybe you win and that would be awesome, but that doesn't suddenly make the bet not-****ing retarded.

Great post.


I would rep if I could.

 

[Hotdog]

These ideas of trading one of our core four players, for a player in this draft or a pick next year , is getting ridiculous.

Numberica put it perfectly.

Managing assets and risk management is the name of the game if you are a gm. Trading both Al and Millsap two years ago was the time to accumilate future draft picks, and anyone with a brain could see that. We got what we got now, we can only hope we get to keep it. You can blame KOC and Co for that. No sense in taking the chance of taking a step backwards. If you want a good pick next year, then going cheap and thin on long term contracts this year, is the way to go. I would be all for it too, but I seriously doubt management will do it. I fully expect them to make every effort to make the playoffs, and probably taking us out of contention for Wiggins. Hell, I'm seriously scared that they will sign Al or Millsap and **** this whole thing up.

 

[Stifle Tower]

^^^I know how you feel Hack. I have the same fear that at some point, Greg will look at the roster and say, "Holy &*^%, we HAVE to re-sign Al because ticket sales will end up in the crapper without a veteran, dominant offensive player." The ONLY thing that gives me hope is having Lindsey aboard and his talk about missing a few steps in the rebuilding process.

 

[Hotdog]

^^^I know how you feel Hack. I have the same fear that at some point, Greg will look at the roster and say, "Holy &*^%, we HAVE to re-sign Al because ticket sales will end up in the crapper without a veteran, dominant offensive player." The ONLY thing that gives me hope is having Lindsey aboard and his talk about missing a few steps in the rebuilding process.

I hope you are right. Or maybe they pull some **** out their asses and manage to get something out of Al or Millsap in a SnT or something without screwing up our cap space, and salvage what's left of our assets.

 

[The Midnight]

^^^I know how you feel Hack. I have the same fear that at some point, Greg will look at the roster and say, "Holy &*^%, we HAVE to re-sign Al because ticket sales will end up in the crapper without a veteran, dominant offensive player." The ONLY thing that gives me hope is having Lindsey aboard and his talk about missing a few steps in the rebuilding process.

I thought with revenue sharing under the new CBA we're guaranteed not to make a loss?