Controversy in Provo/This guy doesn't care much for BYU (merged)

[bigb]

And this "source" was not in the replay booth, so they don't know if this guy provided all the replay angles or not. All the "source" is saying is it wasn't the videographer's final decision. But the videographer absolutely plays a role in the final decision, whether BYU fans want to admit it or not. The final decision is almost entirely based on the videographer's video feed.

You're right Salty. (I'll just say that since that's the only thing you really want to hear.)
The videographer plays a role. He has to provide the videos. We don't know if he provided all the angles. But the part you're missing is that we DON'T KNOW. You'll notice there is no quote from the head replay official saying "I didn't get an opportunity to see that angle." If I were in that situation, and I hadn't seen that angle, I would be making a big *** deal about that fact. Based on his lack of response, I'll assume he saw it.

So if the final decision is based almost entirely on the videographer's video feed, and we see a blatantly blown call that replays clearly showed was blown, it does make you wonder what feed the replay official was looking at. And when the videographer gets suspended after an investigation, I think that says a lot. The fact that he was a current BYU employee (for the past 21 years) only makes it worse.

Does it look bad that the guy is a BYU employee? Yes. Do you hate everything associated with BYU? Yes. Are you biased against BYU? Yes. Will you ever change your opinion relating to anything about BYU? No.

 

[YB85]

I was watching a good football team blow out Iowa State so I didn't watch the BYU game and have only seen the replay of the fumble on youtube. What happened after the call was made and BYU kept the ball?

 

[Duck Rodgers]

TD

 

[bigb]

I was watching a good football team blow out Iowa State so I didn't watch the BYU game and have only seen the replay of the fumble on youtube. What happened after the call was made and BYU kept the ball?

BYU never lost the lead.

 

[SaltyDawg]

Do you really not think that part of the investigation was to make sure the ref had seen every possible angle including the shot which showed the fumble? At the very least, this ref has been called out for doing a poor job. Do you really think the ref would't step forward and let someone know that he hadn't seen it?

we haven't got any quotes from the official because the MWC instructed all parties involved to keep quiet about it. We don't have any quotes from the videographer either. And you can bet if I was the videographer, I would be shouting to the world that I had shown all the angles and done my job, but been suspended for no reason.

You're right Salty. (I'll just say that since that's the only thing you really want to hear.)
The videographer plays a role. He has to provide the videos. We don't know if he provided all the angles. But the part you're missing is that we DON'T KNOW. You'll notice there is no quote from the head replay official saying "I didn't get an opportunity to see that angle." If I were in that situation, and I hadn't seen that angle, I would be making a big *** deal about that fact. Based on his lack of response, I'll assume he saw it.


Does it look bad that the guy is a BYU employee? Yes. Do you hate everything associated with BYU? Yes. Are you biased against BYU? Yes. Will you ever change your opinion relating to anything about BYU? No.

As I said to Marcus- we don't have any quotes because the MWC ordered all parties to be silent. We could also make the argument that the videographer has not come out and said he provided all the video feeds. All we know is the MWC investigated, and they found sufficient grounds to suspend him. Given that fact, I have to assume he did something wrong.

And yes, you know I'm a Utah fan. Would you feel comfortable if I was in the replay booth at a Utah/BYU game at RES? What if I was only the videographer? What if I was the videographer on a crucial blown call and replay that lead to Utah scoring the game winning touchdown? I'm pretty sure you'd be up in arms, and rightfully so.

 

[SaltyDawg]

I was watching a good football team blow out Iowa State so I didn't watch the BYU game and have only seen the replay of the fumble on youtube. What happened after the call was made and BYU kept the ball?

I was also watching the Utah game, and had no idea about any of this until it hit the news. But from what I have read, after the blown call, 5 plays later BYU scored the game winning touchdown.

 

[bigb]

And yes, you know I'm a Utah fan. Would you feel comfortable if I was in the replay booth at a Utah/BYU game at RES? What if I was only the videographer? What if I was the videographer on a crucial blown call and replay that lead to Utah scoring the game winning touchdown? I'm pretty sure you'd be up in arms, and rightfully so.

I'm not a completely psychotic conspiracy theorist, so yes, I would feel comfortable with you up there.

 

[Duck Rodgers]

How is it a game winning touchdown when BYU was already in the lead? Who is to say SDSU even scores after that if the call had been correct?

 

[SaltyDawg]

I'm not a completely psychotic conspiracy theorist, so yes, I would feel comfortable with you up there.

lol, I don't buy that for a second. And even if it's true, you would be in the minority. Most BYU fans would be livid if they found out I was the videographer during a blown call and replay against BYU in RES.

How is it a game winning touchdown when BYU was already in the lead? Who is to say SDSU even scores after that if the call had been correct?

Because that score iced the game for BYU. Baseball has a game winning RBI also, it's just how it works.

If BYU turns it over right there instead of scoring a touchdown, then SDSU gets the ball down by 3. A fg ties it, a touchdown gives them the lead. SDSU did end up scoring a touchdown the next time they got the ball, but that doesn't even matter. They would have only needed a fg.

Needing 2 scores in the 4th quarter is a lot different than only needing a fg.

 

[Scat]

lol, I don't buy that for a second. And even if it's true, you would be in the minority. Most BYU fans would be livid if they found out I was the videographer during a blown call and replay against BYU in RES.

That's only because we know that you are the homerest of the homers. I'd have no problem with a Utah educated videographer running the technical support for the replay booth.

 

[SaltyDawg]

That's only because we know that you are the homerest of the homers. I'd have no problem with a Utah educated videographer running the technical support for the replay booth.

This wasn't just a "BYU educated videographer running the technical support for the replay booth."

This was a BYU educated videographer, yes. But he was also on the payroll of the BYU athletic department for the last 21 years. You can't tell me that someone who went to BYU during the 1984 championship season, graduated from BYU, and has worked for the BYU athletic department ever since, isn't a BYU fan.

And he wasn't just doing tech support. He was the guy giving the video feeds to the replay official.

 

[Duck Rodgers]

The bottom line is, who needs a replay system? I'm tired of it. I love human error.