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Archie Moses

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Perhaps the take away shouldn't be that I'm obsessed with Rogan, but that the only thing that makes you memorable is leaning on an argument made by him/his show?
Um, it's literally the exact opposite of this. You brought up Rogan to knock on him and his listeners for gawd knows why and I have made no argument leaning on Rogan in this thread or for a month or so.


Are you dumb?
 

Harambe

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Um, it's literally the exact opposite of this. You brought up Rogan to knock on him and his listeners for gawd knows why and I have made no argument leaning on Rogan in this thread or for a month or so.


Are you dumb?
Perhaps the take away shouldn't be that I'm obsessed with Rogan, but that the only thing that makes you memorable is leaning on an argument made by him/his show?
 

Joe Bagadonuts

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When said in context, yes I think most voters would easily catch that "nuance" given that it wasn't actually all that nuanced at all. It was pretty straightforward and easy to understand.

“Romney wants to let the — he said in the first hundred days, he’s going to let the big banks once again write their own rules, unchain Wall Street,” Mr. Biden said. “They’re going to put you all back in chains.”

Also, this wasn't said solely to black parishioners, it was a mixed raced crowd at a research institute. So again, it's not clear and obvious that it was intended to have any racial connotations at all.

All that said, I don't think if I was a candidate that's a line I would go with, but to pretend that line is some sort of evidence that the kind of criticism Trump gets these days is just the latest example of liberals making **** up to smear the right is just ridiculous.
 

JazzyFresh

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I wish him the best. I could go off on some mean rant about him but the last thing I want to do is act like him.
 

LogGrad98

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When said in context, yes I think most voters would easily catch that "nuance" given that it wasn't actually all that nuanced at all. It was pretty straightforward and easy to understand.

“Romney wants to let the — he said in the first hundred days, he’s going to let the big banks once again write their own rules, unchain Wall Street,” Mr. Biden said. “They’re going to put you all back in chains.”

Also, this wasn't said solely to black parishioners, it was a mixed raced crowd at a research institute. So again, it's not clear and obvious that it was intended to have any racial connotations at all.

All that said, I don't think if I was a candidate that's a line I would go with, but to pretend that line is some sort of evidence that the kind of criticism Trump gets these days is just the latest example of liberals making **** up to smear the right is just ridiculous.
I'm not comparing Romney to Trump. But they definitely had plenty of out of context sound bites in the media on Romney. The chains one was one I remember the first headline I saw regarding that was something basically with just that piece leaving out the rest. Same with the whole "binders full of women". Yeah he said that wrong, but in the context it wasn't anywhere near as bad as they made it out to be as a sound bite.
 

Gameface

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I'm not comparing Romney to Trump. But they definitely had plenty of out of context sound bites in the media on Romney. The chains one was one I remember the first headline I saw regarding that was something basically with just that piece leaving out the rest. Same with the whole "binders full of women". Yeah he said that wrong, but in the context it wasn't anywhere near as bad as they made it out to be as a sound bite.
And it never got the traction because it wasn't based on as much substance as the very legitimate criticisms of Trump. You didn't have many conservatives expressing concern over Romney's character the way that you absolutely do in regard to Trump.

So while the media is/was the media, the reaction to it is based at least in part on the reality, and the reality is that Trump is uniquely despicable and unqualified.
 

fishonjazz

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And it never got the traction because it wasn't based on as much substance as the very legitimate criticisms of Trump. You didn't have many conservatives expressing concern over Romney's character the way that you absolutely do in regard to Trump.

So while the media is/was the media, the reaction to it is based at least in part on the reality, and the reality is that Trump is uniquely despicable and unqualified.
This.
I never heard about any of that ****. The binders of women or the chains thing. This thread is the first I heard of it or I heard it and it just didn't matter or register cause mitt Romney is a normal ok human being.
It didn't get as much traction as the trump things cause Romney is so far different from Trump.


Trump gets so much **** cause he earns it.

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Zombie

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I'm not comparing Romney to Trump. But they definitely had plenty of out of context sound bites in the media on Romney. The chains one was one I remember the first headline I saw regarding that was something basically with just that piece leaving out the rest. Same with the whole "binders full of women". Yeah he said that wrong, but in the context it wasn't anywhere near as bad as they made it out to be as a sound bite.
On that I totally agree, it made for a funny soundbite so it got a lot of traction (although apparently not as much as I thought given other responses in this thread).

It's true that our media leaves a lot to be desired, and that should be (and often is) a bipartisan complaint. Where the argument loses me is when people complain about our mainstream media as though they are instruments of the Democratic party, or that the right is being victimized by them in a way that the left isn't.
 

Archie Moses

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Perhaps the take away shouldn't be that I'm obsessed with Rogan, but that the only thing that makes you memorable is leaning on an argument made by him/his show?
You're obsessed enough with the fact I've said I enjoy his show and that's all you remember so you bring it up in a thread where it has zero to do with the discussion and imply I'm leaning on him in an argument that's non existent.

I still don't get the point you're trying to make because you're not making one.


I like Rogan's podcast. So ****ing what. Let it go, Mr Fragile.
 

framer

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Lol as if quality of ones life is the only possible reason to not like trump.

I didn't like Trump when he was getting joy out of saying "you're fired" on TV.

My life isn't crappy. You are a fool if you think everyone who hates Trump has a crappy life or everyone who hated Obama had a crappy life at the time.
What a foolish thing to believe.

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You do not create a political thread talking about stuff you hate almost every day on a non-political sports board. You can dislike things and not have it dominate your life. People who let things they hate dominate their life are pretty much uniformly unhappy.

If you come to a Jazz board and spend 90% of your posts talking about any damn political figure, you are not well.
 

Zombie

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You do not create a political thread talking about stuff you hate almost every day on a non-political sports board. You can dislike things and not have it dominate your life. People who let things they hate dominate their life are pretty much uniformly unhappy.

If you come to a Jazz board and spend 90% of your posts talking about any damn political figure, you are not well.
You are aware the GD forum isn't for sports right? A lot of people have similar interests about a variety of things around here and enjoy talking about them. That doesn't mean they are generally unhappy, at all.
 

Safetydan

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You do not create a political thread talking about stuff you hate almost every day on a non-political sports board. You can dislike things and not have it dominate your life. People who let things they hate dominate their life are pretty much uniformly unhappy.

If you come to a Jazz board and spend 90% of your posts talking about any damn political figure, you are not well.
Weird. It just sounds like you have a very narrow view of what is possible in the human experience. Get out more.
 

Stoked

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Hey stoked, are you not entertained!?

This thread didn't turn out how you thought it would....... Actually, it probably turned out exactly like you thought it would lol

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Basically he’s hateful, the board is mostly ok with it and where I went wrong was a bad comparison to Heathme/Dutch.

Point conceded on Heathme. To me the hate isn’t ok and I think it speaks poorly of those that agree with or dismiss it.

Yes, I got mostly what I thought. Per the norm I read @One Brow posts twice. I greatly enjoy his posts. I find them enlightening and he’s altered my stance on several issues.
 

Gameface

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Basically he’s hateful, the board is mostly ok with it and where I went wrong was a bad comparison to Heathme/Dutch.

Point conceded on Heathme. To me it’s not ok and I think it speaks poorly of those that are.

Yes, I got mostly what I thought. Per the norm I read @One Brow posts twice. I greatly enjoy his posts.
I applaud you for calling out people on both sides of the political spectrum when you feel that they are being hateful or unreasonable, and you absolutely do.

I don't see Thriller being focused on individual posters much and being hateful towards them in personal ways. He's a huge Democratic Party fanboy and has his homer glasses on too tight a lot of the time, but I see him going after political ideas and not people. Maybe I'm wrong and I gloss over him making hateful personal attacks, but that's my impression of him.
 

Jazzta

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I applaud you for calling out people on both sides of the political spectrum when you feel that they are being hateful or unreasonable, and you absolutely do.

I don't see Thriller being focused on individual posters much and being hateful towards them in personal ways. He's a huge Democratic Party fanboy and has his homer glasses on too tight a lot of the time, but I see him going after political ideas and not people. Maybe I'm wrong and I gloss over him making hateful personal attacks, but that's my impression of him.
He’s a good sport I’ll give you that. That’s about it...
 
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