Convince Me

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Stoked, Sep 12, 2019.

  1. Jazzta

    Jazzta Well-Known Member

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    Reminds me of that uncle you want to get along with well, but you avoid discussing politics so as to not f up the relationship.
     
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  2. Gameface

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    lol
     
  3. DasJazz

    DasJazz Well-Known Member

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    I absolutely have this same exact stance. And for what it's worth, it's not just him, there are several posters here guilty of the same nonsense.
     
  4. Stoked

    Stoked Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    I disagree for the most part. He’s on a level of his own. Closest I’ve seen is Straightline with his Nazi comment. But that’s comprised in part of trolling fun.
     
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  5. Stoked

    Stoked Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    I’ll agree that he avoids attacking posters here. He isn’t personal like that with anyone here. I also think he is an honest person with obvious intellect.

    But again, he is hateful toward 10s of millions of our fellow Americans and I have a problem with that. It’s not ok.

    I just don’t get it. I truly don’t.
     
  6. Jazzta

    Jazzta Well-Known Member

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    He’s definitely not who opened my eyes about Trump, in fact I think that he creates the opposite effect among those that could still be “rescued”.
     
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  7. Red

    Red Well-Known Member

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    I think Thriller has a solid grasp of history and political science. And I do think such an education helps in judging current events and the state of health of our nation. He seems to be fully engaged in American current events. That kind of focus is not for everyone, it's not for Framer, for instance, but if you enjoy history and the social sciences, it's pretty hard to sleep through such a time. And I think Trump can make it easy to be fully engaged. For or against. The anger, sarcasm, and frustration on Thriller's part reflect that full engagement. No minced words and no love for the Republican Party. I see it as righteous anger more then hatred.

    If you know you're right, you can choose to mince words, so as to not alienate fellow Americans too much. Or you can say "screw it, I'm telling it like it is". I think it's better to show a little diplomacy, even when you know you're right. Sure it's arrogant to "know" you're right, but we stand or fall on how we speak up for right and wrong, as we see it. Thriller believes he knows the right and wrong of these times, he doesn't care to mince his words. These are tough, tough times. There will be righteous indignation from all quarters.

    I do know there's more then one point of view, and I also know that today just seems to be the most divisive and emotionally charged time I have experienced, as an American, in my life, to date. And I ask myself "how the hell can today be worse then the Vietnam War era?" I'm thinking maybe it's the existence of social media. It may be that social media makes today seem more "American against American" then the Vietnam era did, whether it truly is, or not. And all these thread conversations are taking place on social media, not in one of our living rooms, and I suspect that makes a difference, both in how we perceive someone, and in how we present our own personas.
     
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  8. Red

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    “If we can avoid doing violence to the minds of unseen others on the internet, others will learn to do the same. And then perhaps our internet traffic will cease to look like one, great bloody accident.”
    ― Timothy Snyder, On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century
     
  9. Stoked

    Stoked Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    We can’t even avoid doing violence to others when we look them in the eye. Why would it be different given the safe anonymity of the Internet?
     
  10. Red

    Red Well-Known Member

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    Really? So if we're all sitting around someone's living room, instead of the anonymous venue of the Internet, we're still going to troll each other to our faces, bad mouth each other, etc? I do believe we would behave better when we're all live and in living color. Anonymity encourages incivility I do believe. In person removes that anonymity, and we might think twice before simply slamming someone just because they have a different view then our own.

    So, as far as behaving better online, sure, we don't have to try. I just think the deterioration of civility in our society overall, has been aided by how we behave in the anonymity of the Internet. Just a theory of mine, that's all.
     
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  11. Stoked

    Stoked Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    I agree that in person causes people to think twice. And you do see lots of civility. people are still often rude, assholes to each other.
     
  12. LogGrad98

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    He absolutely has a history of attacking other posters. I did a quick search and decided to actually repost one from GF about thriller's attacks on me when I finally decided I'd had enough of both that and his insane leftist vitriol and put him on ignore. I've only ever ignored 2 posters in this site really, and that one I do not regret in the least.

    https://jazzfanz.com/threads/all-gun-control-advocates-please-report-here.68546/page-3#post-1424755

    Everyone all of a sudden pretending he is just a benign passionate left-wing nut is just ********. He's absolutely been as bad as Dutch ever was, he's just more articulate and actually can be conversed with from time to time. Otherwise the hate he spews is both general and specific.
     
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  13. DasJazz

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    Either way I still agree with you 100%
     
  14. RandyForRubio

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    LOL.

    "It's not that he wants to label everybody a racist, it's not that he calls Republicans uneducated idiots, it's not that he thinks you're a Nazi, it's just righteous anger!"

    It's okay that he labels people unjustly, it's okay that he spreads dislike, hate, anger, rage, etc, because he's mad about how things are. AND because I think most of his opinions on social and political aspects are correct, I will defend him!

    Thriller is articulate. He is intellectual. He's also an ******* that denigrates anybody who disagrees with him.

    He's clearly an unhappy person. He's clearly an asswipe. If some of you want to defend him because you agree with some, or all, of his political takes, go for it. I hope you enjoy the irony of complaining that Republicans don't condemn Trump enough.




    /Obligatory statement that I'm not saying Trump/Thriller are equatable. Everybody should be able to understand that, but it's the internet and nobody gets ****.
     
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  15. Archie Moses

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    He's attacked me on a personal level too.
     
  16. Archie Moses

    Archie Moses Well-Known Member

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    I've attached a screenshot of a DM Thriller randomly sent me a few months ago that reads, "Get ****ed."



    Lol
     

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  17. Stoked

    Stoked Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    I forgot about that. Tbh
     
  18. Stoked

    Stoked Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    Individually it can be fair. People like Trump, and McConnell, are deserving. Are they not? But 10s of millions? When you know nothing about them? Not even their names?

    How is that not a major red flag?
     
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  19. gandalfe

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    You certainly don't know whether or not they support someone who brags about assaulting women and defends white supremacists. Oh, wait...
     
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  20. Stoked

    Stoked Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    So you hate all the Trump supporters you do know? The friends, family members or coworkers that support him? They’re all worthy of hate?
     
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