Corbin disrespect Kanter

[txjazzfan]

Did you not read my post right above yours. You don't need heavy minutes to find out what a player has! More playing time is what you earn after you learn how to play. Then you get better.

No, I didn't read your post. We may have been posting at the same time. Yes, I understand about earning playing time. These guys have not been getting a lot the minutes in the past when they had Jefferson and Millsap in front of them. In a year when we aren't gonna make the playoffs you need to let these guys develop and play through struggles. If we were a playoff team then I would agree with the earn your minutes theory. With Kanter being a 3rd overall pick, you need to give him the time on the court. If he doesn't progress or fit in to the future plans then trade him at the end of the year.

 

[GVC]

Why this theory does not work with Hayward?!

I imagine it does. Hayward is usually doing what he's supposed to be doing out on the floor. He's just being asked to fill a role he's not very good at filling.

Kanter continues to make the same basic mistakes every time he's on the floor. He doesn't seem to grasp team basketball at all.

 

[GVC]

Yeah. Corbin would much rather see Beidrins play like absolute ****.

1. Biedrins tends to be in the right spots more frequently than Enes.

2. You can't break what's already broken. There's still hope for Kanter, and he shouldn't just be handed minutes if he's going to continue playing like he's completely overwhelmed.

I didn't think Kanter looked THAT bad last night. There's some progress defensively (although Corbin had them defend the pick and roll a bit differently last night). Had there not been so much garbage time, he likely would have played 28-ish minutes.

 

[GVC]

so, like Big Al?

The last two seasons, Big Al passed and rebounded much better than Enes has so far this season. His defense was also much better than Enes's.

So, no, not really.

 

[GVC]

Decided to skip past all the "yeah, but he needs playing time to get better" that's crap. You don't need 35 minutes a game to play smart or harder. Those are the minutes you get once you do those things, then you get better. Favors is a good example of this.

Here's a pretty decent George Karl interview: https://blitzkrieg13.com/2013/11/28/breakfast-with-george-karl/

 

[Grandpa Jazz]

It seems to me that if we want to at least somewhat base mins on performance and keep players accountable, everyone here should be praising Corbin.

Dutch, if his idea is to make Kanter accountable for poor play then why does Lucas III, Jefferson ever see the court? Just answer me that, and if it makes sense then.....so be it. Nothing against Corbin as a person but as head basketball coach in the NBA he has as much to prove as any of our youth. Unfortunately his PERFORMANCE has been as poor as Lucas.

 

[Qman]

Dutch, if his idea is to make Kanter accountable for poor play then why does Lucas III, Jefferson ever see the court? Just answer me that, and if it makes sense then.....so be it. Nothing against Corbin as a person but as head basketball coach in the NBA he has as much to prove as any of our youth. Unfortunately his PERFORMANCE has been as poor as Lucas.

Simply because we aren't a good enough to team to have other options.

Though specifically JL III hasn't played anything but garabage minutes for a while.

Jefferson isn't doing much on the floor positive or negative.

 

[GVC]

Jefferson isn't doing much on the floor positive or negative.

Other than the constant ball watching... I still like Alec and Kanter off the bench, but at this point the Jazz might be better off moving RJ there as well, and starting Favors-Evans-Marvin-Gordo-Trey.

 

[Hantlers]

Kanter had what...2 rebounds in 20 minutes?

That's pathetic. Embarrassing. I don't care how bad our team is, Kanter could at least give some effort and show that he cares. This is supposed to be a guy who was good at rebounding, but somehow he randomly forgot how to boxout? ********. He isn't giving any effort out there, and it's more than obvious.

 

[Siro]

Holy ****. I can't believe some of these comments.

Kanter has been playing like ****, regardless of what his "stats" say. It's a question of mentality and attitude. His tunnel vision seems to have progressed. His defense gets worse by the minute. He doesn't move correctly, he doesn't box out, he turns the ball over too much, and most importantly, he plays like he doesn't care.

Corbin penalizing him by limiting his minutes is absolutely the right thing to do. It is utterly unimportant if Lucas or Biedrins get 30 minutes while playing like ****, because these two are as good as gone regardless of what they do, and the team is tanking. Why penalize some player who adds no value to the team, and who is not part of the team's future? Kanter is an important part of the Jazz' future, and he should be coached harshly.

I'm very happy that Corbin grew the balls to be more tough with his players. I've liked how he handled minutes v production all season.

 

[Diamond77]

Kanter isn't used correctly! He is a PF that can shoot and seldom can create his own shot in the low post!

He is slow on defense but if he puts effort he can play solid physical defense!

Jazz needs a consistent scorer...now everyone is focused on his poor defense!

I didn't notice offensive schemes to exploit his characteristic!

Why he's not allowed to shoot 3s? We are implicitly tanking, why he can't afford to make mistakes without being benched immediately?

Look at Milsap...he rarely shot 3s with the Jazz...now with the Hawks he is shooting 15-37 at 40% for 3s!

I saw Olynyk playing with the Celtics...why he is allowed to try to shoot 3s already in his first Nba games? I'm not sure he is a better shooter than Kanter!

Kanter haters are Corbin homers for sure! Ty won't be the Jazz coach next year...so he does not care about the youth development.

 

[Siro]

Kanter isn't used correctly! He is a PF that can shoot and seldom can create his own shot in the low post!

He is slow on defense but if he puts effort he can play solid physical defense!

I didn't notice offensive schemes to exploit his characteristic!

Why he's not allowed to shoot 3s? We are implicitly tanking, why he can't afford to make mistakes without being benched immediately?

Look at Milsap...he rarely shot 3s with the Jazz...now with the Hawks he is shooting 15-37 at 40% for 3s!

I saw Olynyk playing with the Celtics...why he is allowed to try to shoot 3s already in his first Nba games? I'm not sure he is a better shooter than Kanter!

Kanter haters are Corbin homers for sure! Ty won't be the Jazz coach next year...so he does not care about the youth development.

In the game against Indiana, Kanter and Burke ran the pick and roll many times, giving Kanter at least 4 good looks (which he made). How is that not taking advantage of his shooting touch? Are you suggesting he should just park himself behind the three point line and jack up one shot after another? Are we looking to develop the equivalent of Kevin Love's disabled younger brother?