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Corbin losing the team?

NAOS said:
not a lot to add to this.

When you then consider how committing to Al on offense is also a commitment to NOT COMMIT to defense, then I'm sure it gets even more frustrating.

It's hard to ignore the fact that Favors and Kanter DESERVE to play more than they do, and are clearly better than Al on defense... which is the ONE thing that Ty has tried to implement this season.

All of this is painfully obvious to the moderately educated fan. Don't you think it's plain-as-****ing-day to the guys in the locker room?
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Yes, it is plain as day to them. Al is probably thrilled that Corbin is willing to overlook his lack of defense as long as he produces on the offensive end. Then that it turn creates a bigger black hole and I have noticed that others don't want to pass it now. Millsap is turning into a black hole himself. Not as much as Jefferson but this is the beginning. Corbin has created this monster and I hope the KOC can save him from it.

I can feel the lynch mob starting to form. Sign me up.
 
I think he's going to have some major trouble keeping this team motivated after the trade deadline. We've already heard the rumblings, Raja pissed that he sat out the 4th quarter in favor of Burks seems to be the tip of the iceberg. KOC needs to trade either Al or Millsap. If he doesn't, Corbin is stuck in neutral, with the front office not willing to commit to the future.

It's just so frustrating to watch how this team is being handled. Kanter and Favors need 25-30 minutes a night so that we have any idea of whether or not they can be cornerstones of a playoff team. Why haven't they even tried Millsap at the 3? Let me see Al, Favors, Millsap, Hayward, Harris on the floor together. Then rotate Kanter in for Al, move Hayward to the 3 and put Burks in for Millsap, with Watson for Harris. Mix things up, look at different options, just don't put the same 5 on the floor and rotate everyone out wholesale. I just don't think we should be done finding what team is best on the floor and who works well with each other.

Or, trade one of our bigs and open up the playing time logjam.
 
Maybe Raja will get suspended and BURKS will get more time. We can only hope. Let's pray Raja goes off in that meeting and KOC has no choice.
 
NAOS said:
not a lot to add to this.

When you then consider how committing to Al on offense is also a commitment to NOT COMMIT to defense, then I'm sure it gets even more frustrating.

It's hard to ignore the fact that Favors and Kanter DESERVE to play more than they do, and are clearly better than Al on defense... which is the ONE thing that Ty has tried to implement this season.

All of this is painfully obvious to the moderately educated fan. Don't you think it's plain-as-****ing-day to the guys in the locker room?
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Wrong. The offense with The Four and Harris or Watson is proven stagnant brackish water. I want MOAR to tank this ****er and improve the draft pick.

That ain't on Ty. He has to play the veterans or the team loses.
 
Maybe Raja will get suspended and BURKS will get more time. We can only hope. Let's pray Raja goes off in that meeting and KOC has no choice.
 
Can't imagine it would be Bell requesting the meeting, nor Corbin. Would have to be KOC hearing rumblings and demanding a meeting. Bell wouldn't call it because, as a vet, Bell would know the GM has to always support the coach (until he's decided to be fired .. can't allow the inmates to run the assylum). Corbin wouldn't call it because he would be telling the GM, that as the HC, he can't do his job. Therefore, there must be some fairly serious issues if it's getting back to KOC and he feels he has to intervene .. that action shows the team he's not confident Ty can handle it alone.

Reaching? Maybe .. but that's how I read it.
 
PKM said:
I'm not supporting the coaching staff right now, but it seems a little ridiculous to assert the following;

Hey coach!

Yeah, Team?

We'd really like to move more on offense, set screens for each other, and help each other out. What do you say?

Not on MY watch you won't! You get back out there and remain stagnant, do NOT set screens, and for the love of everything holy, DO NOT help each other out!!
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The Head Coach gets paid millions of dollars to get the team to play correct basketball. If Ty cannot do that, and Milsap indicates that he is not, then he is a failure. End of story.
 
PKM said:
Can't imagine it would be Bell requesting the meeting, nor Corbin. Would have to be KOC hearing rumblings and demanding a meeting. Bell wouldn't call it because, as a vet, Bell would know the GM has to always support the coach (until he's decided to be fired .. can't allow the inmates to run the assylum). Corbin wouldn't call it because he would be telling the GM, that as the HC, he can't do his job. Therefore, there must be some fairly serious issues if it's getting back to KOC and he feels he has to intervene .. that action shows the team he's not confident Ty can handle it alone.

Reaching? Maybe .. but that's how I read it.
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This. It couldn't be something regarding a trade, because we've seen what kind of class KOC has for those things (I.E. D-Will). IMO, it's something to do with Raja not receiving enough playing time. He said earlier this year that "He just needs my touches", and for the past couple of games, he hasn't played much. But, then again, maybe they are discussing if Raja would like to be traded?? Hmmm....*Eats handful of popcorn*
 
The other day Matt Harpring made a statement how The Jazz went from the best 4th quarter defensive team in the NBA in January to the worst defensive team in February. Now I don't know what exact statistic he was associating with this statement (I'm guessing just points allowed); but to me this illustrates a glaring problem with the coaching staff..

Now ultimately the players play; but to go from best to worst defensive team in a month shows me the league is making adjustments that the coaching staff is either not recognizing or has no ability to counter move.

I won't go as far to say Corbin should be fired; but he clearly needs a veteran coach on his staff to help him through things like this. The fact that he chose Sidney Lowe disturbed me from the start being that guy has never won anything anywhere as a coach.

Lowe should go and they should talk Phil Johnson into coming back as an assitant - even Chisea would be a step in the right direction. If that doesn't work then Corbin should go next.
 
candrew said:
The other day Matt Harpring made a statement how The Jazz went from the best 4th quarter defensive team in the NBA in January to the worst defensive team in February. Now I don't know what exact statistic he was associating with this statement (I'm guessing just points allowed); but to me this illustrates a glaring problem with the coaching staff..

Now ultimately the players play; but to go from best to worst defensive team in a month shows me the league is making adjustments that the coaching staff is either not recognizing or has no ability to counter move.

I won't go as far to say Corbin should be fired; but he clearly needs a veteran coach on his staff to help him through things like this. The fact that he chose Sidney Lowe disturbed me from the start being that guy has never won anything anywhere as a coach.

Lowe should go and they should talk Phil Johnson into coming back as an assitant - even Chisea would be a step in the right direction. If that doesn't work then Corbin should go next.
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Along the lines of things changing and adjustments, it has been odd to see the Jazz now start Q1 fairly well when they had been starting terribly for 1.5 years. But now they are getting hammered after half-time. That suggests the other team is making adjustments at the half and the Jazz cannot counter them.
 
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