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Cory Joseph anyone??

Game6Conley

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i think id trade #23 for Cory Joseph, what say you??

Joseph helps the jazz much more than Elfrid Payton next year tbh, (and i like Payton) hes got years of playoff experience at only 22. he will need a new contract after next year, but i dont think he's going to be asking for anything too crazy.

hes 6'3¼ 186lbs and athletic enough to posterize Ibaka. also his hands are almost 2" longer than Rajon Rondo's

he comes with 3 years of Popovich tutelage, and im sure D. Linds knows everything about him

San Antonio definitely trusts his defense against bigger wing players.

Joseph's not the greatest 3pt shooter, 32% last year. hes shown improvement in that area though, and other than shooting from 3 i dont think theres much to nitpick. very good ast/to ratio, hes also a plus rebounder, and VERY reliable from the line, 85%

the player most responsible for knocking off Kyrie Irving's and MKG's #1 St. Patricks squad back in HS, was Cory Joseph, i always remember that game;

he made this amazing play with 11 seconds to go, they were up 2 and he had 1 free throw to go, missed it short, but goes for the rebound amongst the bigs, knocks the ball in the air, makes a quick second jump diving out of bounds and deflects the ball off of a St. Patricks bigman

I wonder what Vermin thinks of this idea, he knows a good bit about Findlay Prep players

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIwqssbPnqc - heres the HS play im talking about (10:25)
 
He is a decent young player who could certainly crack our rotation from the bench, but the I'd personally take a swing at the #23 spot in this draft who might not pan out but would have more potential.
 
A 1st rounder is a bit of a stretch for CJ. Maybe the #35 or a future 2nd rounder would be enough to get him away from SA.
 
He is a decent young player who could certainly crack our rotation from the bench, but the I'd personally take a swing at the #23 spot in this draft who might not pan out but would have more potential.

i agree with alot of this, im on the fence TBH. I'm on record saying i think someone unexpected falls in the Jazz laps, and still feel that way. ( i do prefer Joseph over the potential PG's picked at 23 though)

however

if we were to trade #23, i dont really want a 'vet' persay, id rather go after like a 22-24 year old whos played a few years and still shows flashes, for as much as Lindsey has publicized the 'were looking to trade for vets, im kind of expecting it to be that type of player

theres just a multitude of reasons i cant dismiss this trade though,

Cory Josephs PG skills are way better than Marcus Smart... His defense is damn good too, he plays big... other than a 1st option or defensive stopper at SF, i think posters around here have been calling for this type of PG more than any other
 
at #23 we have chance to get an athletic wing like GrobIII.

we need athletes who can improve our defense.
 
8 points 4 rebounds 4 assists 2 blocks and 2 steals in 16 minutes in this playoff game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCWUmXUz4pM
 
i challenge anyone to find footage of a guard dunking on Ibaka quite like this.

Ibaka has had the most total blocks in the nba 4 seasons running...

I think he got lucky on that play
 
#23 pick for Joseph is a big stretch...
He is a 3rd string point guard playing behind Patty 'Androgynous Chucker' Mills...

I like him as a player because he has balls, but he is a defensive point and not a setup man. We can't close games and we can't stretch the floor even though we shot a zillion 3s last year. Joseph isn't the solution and he definitely isn't worth a 1st round pick. Besides, irony would work out such that San Antonio would probably get Payton with that #23 pick, he would become an All Star in their system, and we would read 'WE TRADED Cory 'nobody remembers this guy' Joseph FOR Efrid 'All-Star' PAYTON!!!' posts in this forum for the next decade. I am not saying that Payton will be an All-Star, but if we make that trade... it would basically be guaranteed that the Spurs would make irony punch us in the balls.

If we really like Joseph, then a second rounder would be enough... Otherwise, they are probably asking too much. He becomes a FA in 2015/16 and he only makes $2 million next year.
 
#23 pick for Joseph is a big stretch...
He is a 3rd string point guard playing behind Patty 'Androgynous Chucker' Mills...

I like him as a player because he has balls, but he is a defensive point and not a setup man. We can't close games and we can't stretch the floor even though we shot a zillion 3s last year. Joseph isn't the solution and he definitely isn't worth a 1st round pick. Besides, irony would work out such that San Antonio would probably get Payton with that #23 pick, he would become an All Star in their system, and we would read 'WE TRADED Cory 'nobody remembers this guy' Joseph FOR Efrid 'All-Star' PAYTON!!!' posts in this forum for the next decade. I am not saying that Payton will be an All-Star, but if we make that trade... it would basically be guaranteed that the Spurs would make irony punch us in the balls.

If we really like Joseph, then a second rounder would be enough... Otherwise, they are probably asking too much. He becomes a FA in 2015/16 and he only makes $2 million next year.

what a back handed argument

other than your assertion that one is the solution and one isnt

what exactly is Elfrid better at? overdribbling?

your talking about closing games? Payton is less of a threat from 3, a turnover waiting to happen and shoots 55% free throws
 
I am not trying to win a court case here...

What I am trying to say is:

1. Cory Joseph < 23rd pick...
2. Cory Joseph is not the answer
3. Cory Joseph can be had in other ways if he is...

I don't know Elfrid's game at all. Didn't watch a minute of him play. But, trading the #23 pick to San Antone... will certainly give the Spurs a quality player as they know how to draft and develop talent. If it is Elfrid or Gambit from X-Men... they will make him into a player and all we will hear about on this site is how we 'gave up on' player x in exchange for Cory.

I like Cory... don't get me wrong, but what has he done in the NBA outside of last night's performance that will make the Jazz take the next step?

A big pile of Meh...
 
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