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Joe Bagadonuts said:
I could not bring myself to vote for Trump or Hillary under any circumstances. There was a short period of time where I seriously considered Trump but that is long gone. If it was Trump against Sanders I guess I'd vote for Sanders, but I would be very sad to see this country move farther toward socialism. I have never liked Cruz. When he goes into that wispery inspirational voice of his it gives me the creeps. I would happily vote for Kasich over any of the other candidates.
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So, if socialism is defined as public ownership of the means of production, how would Sanders move us in this direction? For example, free college education (which I think is a pipe dream) does not really apply here, does it? College is already heavily publicly subsidized; health care is a special case, in my opinion, and is publicly provided in all or nearly all other developed countries. I'm not aware that Sanders is calling for government take over of privately-owned firms. So, despite Sanders rhetoric about socialism, how is what he proposing moving the US closer to state ownership of the means of production?

I'm asking in serious; I don't know all the details of what Sanders is proposing.
 
I hope this is true; really I do. There's almost nothing as satisfying as the Schadenfreud that comes from a loud, self-righteous, stridently moralizing religious nutcase fanatic getting caught with his/her pants down. I love it! Hmmm delicious!!!! Plus that and I absolutely hate Cruz. He's a soulless, calculating, socio-pathic evil prick. Almost nothing would give me more pleasure than see him get hoisted on his own petards.
 
jimmy eat jazz said:
I hope this is true; really I do. There's almost nothing as satisfying as the Schadenfreud that comes from a loud, self-righteous, stridently moralizing religious nutcase fanatic getting caught with his/her pants down. I love it! Hmmm delicious!!!! Plus that and I absolutely hate Cruz. He's a soulless, calculating, socio-pathic evil prick. Almost nothing would give me more pleasure than see him get hoisted on his own petards.
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Sounds like you need Jesus as much as Cruz does ;)
 
jimmy eat jazz said:
I hope this is true; really I do. There's almost nothing as satisfying as the Schadenfreud that comes from a loud, self-righteous, stridently moralizing religious nutcase fanatic getting caught with his/her pants down. I love it! Hmmm delicious!!!! Plus that and I absolutely hate Cruz. He's a soulless, calculating, socio-pathic evil prick. Almost nothing would give me more pleasure than see him get hoisted on his own petards.
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You and Cruz sound very similar.

;)
 
jimmy eat jazz said:
So, if socialism is defined as public ownership of the means of production, how would Sanders move us in this direction? For example, free college education (which I think is a pipe dream) does not really apply here, does it? College is already heavily publicly subsidized; health care is a special case, in my opinion, and is publicly provided in all or nearly all other developed countries. I'm not aware that Sanders is calling for government take over of privately-owned firms. So, despite Sanders rhetoric about socialism, how is what he proposing moving the US closer to state ownership of the means of production?

I'm asking in serious; I don't know all the details of what Sanders is proposing.
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Huh? I think you may have your political terminology a little mixed up. Socialism is one end of a continuum. Joe clearly pointed out "farther toward", which implies moving further to the socialistic end of the continuum...
 
jimmy eat jazz said:
So, if socialism is defined as public ownership of the means of production, how would Sanders move us in this direction? For example, free college education (which I think is a pipe dream) does not really apply here, does it? College is already heavily publicly subsidized; health care is a special case, in my opinion, and is publicly provided in all or nearly all other developed countries. I'm not aware that Sanders is calling for government take over of privately-owned firms. So, despite Sanders rhetoric about socialism, how is what he proposing moving the US closer to state ownership of the means of production?

I'm asking in serious; I don't know all the details of what Sanders is proposing.
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You need me to explain to you how Sanders proposed programs would move us toward socialism? Are you paying any attention to what he says at all?
 
Cunning Linguist said:
The way I read your post made it sound as if Bernie was bad because he wanted to create some Socialist society. No?
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Bernie does want to create "some Socialist society." That's his stated goal. He believes that socialist solutions are the answers to our problems. That's precisely why he calls himself a Democratic Socialist.
 
jimmy eat jazz said:
I hope this is true; really I do. There's almost nothing as satisfying as the Schadenfreud that comes from a loud, self-righteous, stridently moralizing religious nutcase fanatic getting caught with his/her pants down. I love it! Hmmm delicious!!!! Plus that and I absolutely hate Cruz. He's a soulless, calculating, socio-pathic evil prick. Almost nothing would give me more pleasure than see him get hoisted on his own petards.
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Tell us how you really feel. :)
 
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