Culture of winning or tank?

[str8line]

Winning culture is gaining on tank. 21 for tank, 18 for winning culture.

 

[Nate505]

Winning culture is gaining on tank. 21 for tank, 18 for winning culture.

At least it's close.

 

[NUMBERICA]

tanking is for losers lol

Only if they do it right.

 

[LogGrad98]

Kawhi was probably the best player in the league that season for Toronto.

I'll give you that Detroit team with Rip, Chauncey, Big Ben, Wallace, Prince that upset Kobe/Shaq in the Finals.

Yeah but as a team there were definitely more talented teams than Toronto. Milwaukee for one. But Toronto came on strong at the right time and scrapped their way to the ring.

 

[MTS]

A. It was a hypothetical question. In the hypothetical you do get to buy the lottery ticket.

It wasn't a hypothetical, it was an analogous question, ie, the Jazz tanking is like buying a lottery ticket.

A hypothetical would have been more like "If you ran the Jazz, would you tank?"

B. You can enjoy a season of tanking. In fact you can even enjoy it more than a season of trying to win. We were trying to win last season. I thought last season was not fun at all. It was very frustrating.
This season ther is no pressure and losses are wins. Thats pretty sweet.

I mean, yeah, that's what I'm doing. I'm just adding onto it that I'm going to enjoy wins as well, and I'm going to cheer for the Jazz to win when I watch, without getting heartsick over losses.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

The way we talk about culture means next to nothing. It can be great one year, awful the next and vice versa. Culture is determined by results versus expectations, not the other way around.

By all accounts utah had a great culture and even that went up in smoke in a moments notice. Lol

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

They got Duncan through injuries and luck

If I recall, they continued to hold Robinson out even after he was over his injuries.

Of course, we went with the better choice and got Boozer, but we also got Memo.

We way overpaid for Okur but we got lucky that he was actually good. He was just an off the bench role player for Detroit playing 18-20 min a game. He came for the huge raise and a starting spot. Boozer was under contract but wanted more money so he tricked a blind man to get out of his deal then took the bag from the jazz. Lol

 

[The Fresh Prince]

The talent pool in the NBA draft is starting to expand. You can definitely find studs mid lotto-late in the draft. This draft class is supposed to be deep with talent, so I'm certain with as much draft capital as we have we can make something happen.

 

[The Fresh Prince]

If I recall, they continued to hold Robinson out even after he was over his injuries.

We way overpaid for Okur but we got lucky that he was actually good. He was just an off the bench role player for Detroit playing 18-20 min a game. He came for the huge raise and a starting spot. Boozer was under contract but wanted more money so he tricked a blind man to get out of his deal then took the bag from the jazz. Lol

Memo showed potential in Detroit though, that's what we signed him on because he wasn't taking Ben/Sheed Wallace's starting spot.

 

[str8line]

By all accounts utah had a great culture and even that went up in smoke in a moments notice. Lol

Donna'll do that.

 

[HeatCheck]

Yeah but as a team there were definitely more talented teams than Toronto. Milwaukee for one. But Toronto came on strong at the right time and scrapped their way to the ring.

Agreed but I really think you need a top 10 player to win a ring in today's NBA. Anunoby, Siakam, Van Vleet, Lowry, Gasol were all scrappy players but they don't win it all without Kawhi.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Memo showed potential in Detroit though, that's what we signed him on because he wasn't taking Ben/Sheed Wallace's starting spot.

The point is we had to over pay him. If he wasn’t behind two all stars we never would’ve gotten him. If Boozer hadn’t been money hungry, I doubt we sign him. Both Mitchell and DWill tried recruiting, both quickly realized that would never happen.