Current Players Draft First Round: Howard vs. Hack

[Ron Mexico]

The more you post, the more it becomes obvious you just haven't been watching basketball.

good one, I see how you got your name.


Not sure why anyone who posts regularly on here wouldnt be someone who watches BB regularly since this is a board for passionate Jazz Basketball fans. But I guess you assume otherwise which always turns out well.

Honestly wish I watched less basketball since I have to watch quite a bit for work.

 

[The Midnight]

good one, I see how you got your name.


Not sure why anyone who posts regularly on here wouldnt be someone who watches BB regularly since this is a board for passionate Jazz Basketball fans. But I guess you assume otherwise which always turns out well.

Honestly wish I watched less basketball since I have to watch quite a bit for work.

You have to watch quite a bit for work? Are you like a scout? You can Rep me your answer if you don't want to make it public.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Defensive stats are not terrible good to me, dont tell you enough about the individual. Team stats for defense are helpful. According to the stat you just gave me Khris is the same as Korver who I would not deem an elite defender. They both play well on a team defense and rotate well but neither are good man to man defenders. They have the same problem, not athletic enough or quick enough laterally to stay in front.

His DWS shows he is in good company. He is a top 20 player in that category just like Big Al who is an elite defender this year right?

Once again, his opponents shooting percentage against him doesn't have that much to do with his teammates. I'm using multiple stats together to show you he's a good defender, not just one that can easily be taken out of context. If you really think he's a bad defender, then you don't know basketball sir.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Anyways, let's get back to the team concept. You know, the one where Hack said his strategy is to play a ball movement type offense with Irving and Martin. Laughable. Ludicrous. And you all fell for it.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Bronc, legit question. Are you an ESL speaker?

 

[fishonjazz]

Im going with hacks team even though i hate kevin martin. Shabazz or super mario would hopefully take alot of martins minutes.

Probably toughest match of the first round

 

[RandyForRubio]

Im going with hacks team even though i hate kevin martin. Shabazz or super mario would hopefully take alot of martins minutes.

Probably toughest match of the first round

Trusting a rookie, even one who has played overseas, to play significant minutes in a playoff scenario is super risky.

 

[fishonjazz]

Trusting a rookie, even one who has played overseas, to play significant minutes in a playoff scenario is super risky.

Ya, I don't like Martin, bazz, or lavine playing big minutes but I like the rest of his team and figure maybe the three of those guys together could do an adequate job

 

[spycam1]

This is a tough one for me.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Once again, his opponents shooting percentage against him doesn't have that much to do with his teammates. I'm using multiple stats together to show you he's a good defender, not just one that can easily be taken out of context. If you really think he's a bad defender, then you don't know basketball sir.

All defensive stats show a team concept and not an individual. Plenty of defenders show good stats across the board when playing with a good team defense, such as the players I provided examples of. If you think he is an elite defender at his position than I think you have not watched him play very much in his career.

 

[RandyForRubio]

At the very least I've put together a better argument than Hack.

 

[RandyForRubio]

All defensive stats show a team concept and not an individual. Plenty of defenders show good stats across the board when playing with a good team defense, such as the players I provided examples of. If you think he is an elite defender at his position than I think you have not watched him play very much in his career.

Well then clearly you don't know what you're watching. And yes, team defense does play a big role. Just so happens I've got a very good ovetall team defense. Westbrook, Porter, Middleton are all at the very least above average, and Ibaka is elite. Every single statistic says that your eye test is wrong. That's why we have stats, to validate or disprove what our eyes see.