The thing I don't like, Tinsley is 35. Say he gets injured, we don't know how Jerel McNeal would stand up as a backup to Burke. If he wasn't good, that would put a LOT of pressure on Trey.
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The thing I don't like, Tinsley is 35. Say he gets injured, we don't know how Jerel McNeal would stand up as a backup to Burke. If he wasn't good, that would put a LOT of pressure on Trey.
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I have been saying this for a while bring tomic over on a front loaded contract 8 mill first year 6 mil following 2. more then he get in europe and he has 4 or 5 mill first year for his buy out. he would be a great mentor for Gobert.
could you imagine short stints with both of those 2 on the floor at the same time.
could you imagine short stints with both of those 2 on the floor at the same time.
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I would also like Thomas Robinson as the back pf and his 3.8 mill or so will help.
I'd be very happy with TROB, this dude needs a chance already. He has the talent.
Kaman = The Black Hole with less offensive game.
IBProfane
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If the front office's goal is to tank next season and we need to spend $24 million dollars they should offer 1 year/$8 million deals to 3 MLE level talents. Offer that to Jack, Korver & a 3rd big (Hickson?). That allows us to retain our cap space to offer extensions next fall, and we don't get have any players under contract for this season that are good enough to get us near the playoffs. The problem is, I think a line-up of Burke, Burks, Hayward, Favors & Kanter is an 8th seed in the West next year. Can't wait to watch the new "Fab Five" surprise and the plan could potentially blow up in their faces. If it actually happens, no one will be happier than me.
If it was up to me, I'd give DeMarre a 1 year/$12 million deal and the same to another player of his caliber. That would ensure that our starting 5 would be the Core Four + Burke.
If it was up to me, I'd give DeMarre a 1 year/$12 million deal and the same to another player of his caliber. That would ensure that our starting 5 would be the Core Four + Burke.
Stifle Tower
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That is my feeling, EXACTLY!
Burks eventuially comes off the bench. Or, if we have a chance to move up in the draft and grab one of the top-5 picks, he's offered in a trade. I was against it this year, but next year's rookie crop is worth it. I do agree with you that we need a starting SF.
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Ok, for the umpteenth time, there is no required minimum that HAS to be spent on the roster. If a team is under the "floor," the difference between the actual amount spent and the minimum "required" is simply paid out in bonuses to the players on the roster. Furthermore, the minimum isn't determined by beginning salaries. Jazz could be $20M under until the deadline, then take on 2-3 big salaries (without giving anything back) to get to the minimum. If I were a betting man, I'd say the Jazz pursue Millsap at $8M/per, re-sign Carroll and Tinsley and then try to bring in a veteran wing and veteran PG on 1-yr deals. Jazz need another wing until Marvin can play. And I doubt they feel comfortable starting Burke from Day 1, with just Tinsley and Neto as the backups. This would still leave enough cap space to take on 2 significant salary dumps form teams needing to cut their luxury tax bills. And the Jazz would demand either a rotation player or a lottery pick for doing so.If the front office's goal is to tank next season and we need to spend $24 million dollars they should offer 1 year/$8 million deals to 3 MLE level talents. Offer that to Jack, Korver & a 3rd big (Hickson?). That allows us to retain our cap space to offer extensions next fall, and we don't get have any players under contract for this season that are good enough to get us near the playoffs. The problem is, I think a line-up of Burke, Burks, Hayward, Favors & Kanter is an 8th seed in the West next year. Can't wait to watch the new "Fab Five" surprise and the plan could potentially blow up in their faces. If it actually happens, no one will be happier than me.
If it was up to me, I'd give DeMarre a 1 year/$12 million deal and the same to another player of his caliber. That would ensure that our starting 5 would be the Core Four + Burke.
Hantlers
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So, currently this is our depth chart. I think.
PG: Burke, McNeal, Neto
SG: Burks
SF: Hayward, Williams
PF: Favors, Evans
C: Kanter, Gobert
Now then, I personally think our PG situation outside of Burke is a bad idea. I would rather not have that many young players at one position, we need a mentor. Evans shouldn't play that much, and neither should Gobert, so we need a quality backup big.
So, here's who I like for each position.
PG: Tinsley (mentor/coach), CJ Watson (solid backup), Shaun Livingston (just cause it'd be fun), Darren Collison
SG: Foye (backup role only), Gerald Henderson (move Burks to 6th man, I'm a big fan of Henderson, we'd have to pay though), Wayne Ellington (he can shoot)
SF: Carroll, Martell Webster (we could use a shooter),
PF/C: Josh McRoberts (versatile player and I'm a homer) , JJ Hickson (although I don't see why he would sign here to be a backup unless we overpay him), Carl Landry, Cole Aldrich, Dante Cunningham
I know this is a lot of players, but that's who I like.
PG: Burke, McNeal, Neto
SG: Burks
SF: Hayward, Williams
PF: Favors, Evans
C: Kanter, Gobert
Now then, I personally think our PG situation outside of Burke is a bad idea. I would rather not have that many young players at one position, we need a mentor. Evans shouldn't play that much, and neither should Gobert, so we need a quality backup big.
So, here's who I like for each position.
PG: Tinsley (mentor/coach), CJ Watson (solid backup), Shaun Livingston (just cause it'd be fun), Darren Collison
SG: Foye (backup role only), Gerald Henderson (move Burks to 6th man, I'm a big fan of Henderson, we'd have to pay though), Wayne Ellington (he can shoot)
SF: Carroll, Martell Webster (we could use a shooter),
PF/C: Josh McRoberts (versatile player and I'm a homer) , JJ Hickson (although I don't see why he would sign here to be a backup unless we overpay him), Carl Landry, Cole Aldrich, Dante Cunningham
I know this is a lot of players, but that's who I like.
TheSilencer1313
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I like your list but..... CJ Watson over Calderon?
Jose is just as good a shooter, a better passer and ball handler than all the guards you mentioned, and he is also starting caliber since we all know Burke isn't going to start yet.
Jose is just as good a shooter, a better passer and ball handler than all the guards you mentioned, and he is also starting caliber since we all know Burke isn't going to start yet.
Calderon is expensive and useless for what the team is trying to do. I think Maynor is a better, and much more likely, option.
TheSilencer1313
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I'll give you that Maynor is a good idea, but he also suffered a major injury in OKC so he's a little bit of a question mark.
I also don't see Calderon as being too expensive for a team that had as much cap space as the Jazz do.
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I would rather not have another player who knows he can't be a part of the team's long term plans. Who wants that kind of "mentor-ship"? Maynor can be had for next to nothing, and once Burke is ready to start, Maynor can be the team's backup PG for the long run.
But I can live with Calderon.
Zulu
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Burks can easily play backup PG!!!
Zulu
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Love this idea...
But per the New CBA you can only drop a players contract by 15% each year...
But I would love to sign Carroll and Tomic to front loaded deals that drop each year there after!!
Sneakers
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Would we be foolish to roll in next year with Burke, Maynor and Tinsley as our PGs?
I think that would be okay, unless Burke ended up struggling. Then we'd be right back where we were last year.
Maynor's stats last year look like ****e, but I feel it's a combination of injury / bench relegation. He can do better.
I think that would be okay, unless Burke ended up struggling. Then we'd be right back where we were last year.
Maynor's stats last year look like ****e, but I feel it's a combination of injury / bench relegation. He can do better.
I would rather us sign a decent backup like Maynor then go after Tony Allen, bringing Burks off the bench as a 6th man.
Hantlers
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What if we sign Maynor as backup, then sign Gerald Henderson to be our starting SG and Burks be our 6th man scorer off the bench?
Or am I just being a Henderson homer?