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Cut and Run Dems

Like the typical holier-than-thou fence-sitter you usually "put out" your theory in the middle of principled debates, as though not settling on your own philosophical principles is the only way to engage your brain. This stance usually just means you stick your finger in the air to determine which way the wind blows in any given context, and you can aloofly stand above the fray and criticize everyone else to your waffling heart's content.

Yeah! And while you're turning your brain off, don't forget to claim sole responsibility to correct interpretations of the constitution, bible, Sanskrit texts, and true meanings of obscure objects on Mars.
 
He that blows the coals in quarrels that he has nothing to do with, has no right to complain if the sparks fly in his face. ~Franklin
 
Brilliant take on things:

Crunchtime said:
Now the Indiana Democrats have run to Illinois to hide as well. Isn't it fitting that all these Dems, who make legislative careers out of shilling for the public employee unions at the expense of average, private taxpayers, are all running to hide in Illinois --- home of our President, another blatant shill for unions, as well as home of the worst unfunded liability problems relative to population in the entire United States. So Illinois is now holding a veritable convention of crooks and morons.


Originally Posted by Forbes
Political Litmus Test: Bluest States Spilling The Most Red Ink
Powerful unions, big spending put Democratic states in deepest fiscal holes.

Illinois is in the worst financial condition, with per-capita debt of $1,877 and unfunded pensions of $17,230. Moody's rates Illinois' general obligation debt A1, ahead of only California's.

Utah, the fiscally fittest state, has debt of just $442 and unfunded pension obligations of $7,272 per resident. It is also America's second reddest state with a 21-percentage-point Republican advantage in party affiliation. The Beehive state boasts a triple-A credit rating from Moody's.

Note: This article is about one year old, but Illinois and California are still in dire straights.

https://www.forbes.com/2010/02/25/dem...ce-blue_2.html
 
Like the typical holier-than-thou fence-sitter you usually "put out" your theory in the middle of principled debates, as though not settling on your own philosophical principles is the only way to engage your brain. This stance usually just means you stick your finger in the air to determine which way the wind blows in any given context, and you can aloofly stand above the fray and criticize everyone else to your waffling heart's content.

I make it very clear where I stand on issues as they arise. Pick one and we can discuss. Just because I haven't dedicated my entire heart and soul to a "side" in all this and fully adopted their propoganda prima facie, the way you have, doesn't mean I have no stance. I take stances on each issue as it arises, I do not sell out to one complete set of ideologies wholesale. The one area I do consistently criticize is the blanket statement of belief that your side is always right and the other side is always wrong.





Careful your inner Hopper is showing.
 
I agree with that there millsapa! Them there godless demecrats hates religion and are evil and are muslim communistx traying to take over der world!

I done read 5,000 yer leep and it done tell me everyting i need to know!

Now them democrats and that there racist president gonna legalize gay marriage! He hates amerika and wants us to be slaves to comunistx.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article...t-drops-defense-of-anti-gay-marriage-law.html
 
I agree with that there millsapa! Them there godless demecrats hates religion and are evil and are muslim communistx traying to take over der world!

I done read 5,000 yer leep and it done tell me everyting i need to know!

Now them democrats and that there racist president gonna legalize gay marriage! He hates amerika and wants us to be slaves to comunistx.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article...t-drops-defense-of-anti-gay-marriage-law.html

At the risk of getting zinged by all comabatants. . . .

A lot of "conservatives" I know a little about are actually hypocrits, like Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin. The way I figure it, anyone who will play to the globalist movement, and support governance schemes like all the raft of oncoming/ongoing gradualist movements we could loosely define as part of the "globalist" program to solve the world's problemss, has got to be a hypocrit whether they profess to be Republican or Democrat. The party of Lincoln started out with an objective to end slavery, or so they claimed. But Lincoln got the nod from a clique of New York bankers and they thought they would own him entirely. He proved to be problematical to their program for the nation, as he refused to dodge the Civil War and set the Confederacy free. And he did set the slaves free. But they still cleaned up, collecting vast fortunes in supply the war arsenal of the North, and they got the lush deal of being paid to build their own railroads with vast tracts of land, including valuable coal resources in Utah. Republicans have been cornered by elitists/lobbyists/bankers ever since. IMO definitely not what our Constitution called for.

The Democrats have also been co-opted, and as FDR and Bill Clinton demonstrated, are just a capable of governing this land as tools of the "interests" even while claiming to be for "the little man"...... A real-life display of politics just as set forth in that great American History captured in "Oh Brother, Where Art Thou". Unions today are just another blood-sucking band of leeches draining the little man of every buck they can, while their bosses live like corporate CEOs and have their own lobby machines to care for, and profit from. . . . .

After knowing some communists pretty well, and studying their founding literature, it's pretty evident to me that "Communism" is a grand hoax run by some very clever moneybags folks, who founded it on purpose to deflect the damage the American Revolution threatened to do to the elitists. And to set some potential competitors back a ways from disrupting their trade interests. . . . I rode carpool with a dedicated communist for several years and listened to the tale of how the great dream had been taken over by phony communists who were really "statists", and how those phony crooked communists in China, Cuba, Russia were in bed with the capitalists. I failed to make the point with him that "Of course they are. Those capitalists even paid Karl Marx to write his books. There is no such thing as inexorable principles of economics and socialism, all there is is some adroit puppeteers running little plays out on the world stage to keep the dumb people mesmerized with a false division, and keep them fighting each other instead of doing something about the manipulators.

Globalism/regional governance/"think globally act locally" local governance is in its nature an anti-American revolution consisting of some elitist/intellectualist think tank groupings and a lot a fascist top-down, corporate-friendly takeouts of human rights. Democrats ought to be just as concerned with losing the American Revolution, in fact even more concerned about it, than Republicans. It is anti-thetical to democracy as well as representative republics.

Here's a clue for those of you who aren't just happily mesmerized one way or another. When was the last time you voted for a UN official???

That's right. They don't have to be elected by the people. They get appointed by moneybags scum.
 
Careful babe you are showing signs of independent thought. You will be corn-holed if you don't show that you strictly adhere to a given political dogma regardless of the crap they may spew, and it will be even worse if it isn't the right one. You have to agree with everything they say or nothing, you aren't allowed to reason it out like you actually care about what is going on and maybe even agree with dems some and repubs some and maybe both and neither sometimes. Issues don't matter, only sides. I wish you luck.
 
There is no such thing as inexorable principles of economics and socialism, all there is is some adroit puppeteers running little plays out on the world stage to keep the dumb people mesmerized with a false division, and keep them fighting each other instead of doing something about the manipulators.

Its the pablum of god, guns and gays that keep the populace at odds with each other...while...well...you know the rest.
 
I make it very clear where I stand on issues as they arise. Pick one and we can discuss. Just because I haven't dedicated my entire heart and soul to a "side" in all this and fully adopted their propoganda prima facie, the way you have, doesn't mean I have no stance. I take stances on each issue as it arises, I do not sell out to one complete set of ideologies wholesale. The one area I do consistently criticize is the blanket statement of belief that your side is always right and the other side is always wrong.





Careful your inner Hopper is showing.

That's what I said. You stick your finger in the air and then take a stance. I follow a set of principles and judge a situation based on that.

I hope our disagreement doesn't mean I can't ever get that chowder recipe from you.
 
I make it very clear where I stand on issues as they arise. Pick one and we can discuss. Just because I haven't dedicated my entire heart and soul to a "side" in all this and fully adopted their propoganda prima facie, the way you have, doesn't mean I have no stance. I take stances on each issue as it arises, I do not sell out to one complete set of ideologies wholesale. The one area I do consistently criticize is the blanket statement of belief that your side is always right and the other side is always wrong.





Careful your inner Hopper is showing.

That's what I said. You stick your finger in the air and then take a stance. I follow a set of principles and judge a situation based on that.

I hope our disagreement doesn't mean I can't ever get that chowder recipe from you.

Gotcha, you let Glenn Beck tell you what to believe up front. I think about an issue and make a decision on my own. Glad that is cleared up.



I was wondering who wanted that recipe because a few asked but no one did in PM so I didn't remember who.
 
don't degrade a point of view. Put it out the best you can, and then show why it's wrong. babe

I wasn't degrading a point of view. I was making fun of Hopper/Millsapa.
 
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