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homeytennis

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Gerald Green was in the DLeague earlier in the year and was signed by New Jersey. He has played in 19 games averaging 23 minuts a game and is averaging 11.5 points on 49% shooting with 37% from 3 and 3.4 rebounds a game. Compare that with our 3s. It seems like our front office needs to do a better job of scouting.
 
homeytennis said:
Gerald Green was in the DLeague earlier in the year and was signed by New Jersey. He has played in 19 games averaging 23 minuts a game and is averaging 11.5 points on 49% shooting with 37% from 3 and 3.4 rebounds a game. Compare that with our 3s. It seems like our front office needs to do a better job of scouting.
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He also plays on the Nets where games don't matter.
 
homeytennis said:
Gerald Green was in the DLeague earlier in the year and was signed by New Jersey. He has played in 19 games averaging 23 minuts a game and is averaging 11.5 points on 49% shooting with 37% from 3 and 3.4 rebounds a game. Compare that with our 3s. It seems like our front office needs to do a better job of scouting.
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He was a lottery pick straight out of high school who has been in the NBA for a number of seasons doing nothing. Nobody has ever doubted his physcial talents. Apparently he has finally developed some NBA skills.
 
Give me an example of a REAL D-Leaguer that's done jack **** in the NBA, and I might have a little bit more of an understanding as to why you waste so much time and energy looking at those scrubs.

In case you need a definition of what a REAL D-Leaguer is, it's someone that wasn't talented enough to get drafted, and too dumb to develop in a real league (Europe). Sundiata Gaines is the best example I can think of off the top of my head.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Give me an example of a REAL D-Leaguer that's done jack **** in the NBA, and I might have a little bit more of an understanding as to why you waste so much time and energy looking at those scrubs.

In case you need a definition of what a REAL D-Leaguer is, it's someone that wasn't talented enough to get drafted, and too dumb to develop in a real league (Europe). Sundiata Gaines is the best example I can think of off the top of my head.
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Agreed. Actually Mikki Moore probably had one of the most successful NBA careers coming out of the DLeague - but with the exception of his career season in a contract year - he was a career journeyman who bounced around the league. These guys should be viewed as stop-gap/roster filler options moreso than long term solutions.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Give me an example of a REAL D-Leaguer that's done jack **** in the NBA, and I might have a little bit more of an understanding as to why you waste so much time and energy looking at those scrubs.

In case you need a definition of what a REAL D-Leaguer is, it's someone that wasn't talented enough to get drafted, and too dumb to develop in a real league (Europe). Sundiata Gaines is the best example I can think of off the top of my head.
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Anthony Tolliver
Keleena Azubuike
Will Bynum
Matt Carroll (I'm prettty sure he wasn't drafted.)
Chuck Hayes
Jamario Moon
JJ Barea (was key in a NBA title just last year)

Those are just the ones I can name off the top of my head. I bet there are a ton others.

Do your homework, son.
 
Archie Moses said:
JJ Barea (was key in a NBA title just last year)
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Actually Barea had already earned gauranteed spot on the Mavericks roster before the Mavs sent him down to the D-League to gain experience. That's like saying "Oh, Kyrylo Fesenko played for the Utah Flash so he's another example of a DLeager" while in reality those are both just examples of teams using the NBDL as a way to give benchwarmers game action.
 
vslice02 said:
Actually Barea had already earned gauranteed spot on the Mavericks roster before the Mavs sent him down to the D-League to gain experience. That's like saying "Oh, Kyrylo Fesenko played for the Utah Flash so he's another example of a DLeager" while in reality those are both just examples of teams using the NBDL as a way to give benchwarmers game action.
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He still met NUMB's requirements. He was never drafted and never played Euro ball.
 
Archie Moses said:
Anthony Tolliver
Keleena Azubuike
Will Bynum
Matt Carroll (I'm prettty sure he wasn't drafted.)
Chuck Hayes
Jamario Moon
JJ Barea (was key in a NBA title just last year)

Those are just the ones I can name off the top of my head. I bet there are a ton others.

Do your homework, son.
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You kind of proved my point, but good work. Some of those I thought were undrafted free agents and 2nd rounders and they weren't. However, I did my homework and JJ Barea was an undrafted free agent, as was Will Bynum (played in the D-League, but jumped from an overseas league). Not exactly an impressive list given the rate of success and the ceiling of the players.

If the best thing you can get is a Kelenna Azubuike every decade, then it doesn't sound very rewarding since the likelihood of finding one of them is far rarer than almost anything. There are just better places to look if you're in the Jazz's position (a lot good assets).

But yeah. Good work. Chris Andersen too.
 
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Archie Moses said:
He still met NUMB's requirements. He was never drafted and never played Euro ball.
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I'm not sure if you really thought my point was that Europe is a better league to develop or play in the NBA, but it wasn't. By that requirement, I would've also missed Wesley Matthews and Jeremy Lin.
 
NUMBERICA said:
You kind of proved my point, but good work. Some of those I thought were undrafted free agents and 2nd rounders and they weren't. However, I did my homework and Chuck Hayes was an undrafted free agent, as was JJ Barea and Will Bynum. Outside of Azubuike (who was VERY good before he had that practically career-ending injury)... and maybe Tolliver... pretty scrubby stuff.

If the best thing you can get is a Kelenna Azubuike every decade, then it doesn't sound very rewarding since the likelihood of finding one of them is far rarer than almost anything. There are just better places to look if you're in the Jazz's position (a lot good assets).

But yeah. Good work. Chris Andersen too.
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You hear Dallas signed Azubuike to a 2 year deal? Interested to see how that works out.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Give me an example of a REAL D-Leaguer that's done jack **** in the NBA, and I might have a little bit more of an understanding as to why you waste so much time and energy looking at those scrubs.

In case you need a definition of what a REAL D-Leaguer is, it's someone that wasn't talented enough to get drafted, and too dumb to develop in a real league (Europe). Sundiata Gaines is the best example I can think of off the top of my head.
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I think it's less about being dumb, but more just holding onto a sliver of hope they get called up to the NBA (which I guess could be considered dumb). Gaines goes to Europe, he isn't playing in the NBA right now. That is true for most D-Leaguers who get called up. Some stick, some don't, but at least they got to fulfill their dream for that 10 day contract.
 
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