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Saint Cy of JFC said:
Didnt know Portland had to talk to Miami to know what Utah would give for Herro
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Man you just want to argue about everything. Maybe they knew we'd put more in but not enough to close the gap on what Miami was witholding and they just said "**** em". Portland cutting off Miami would end the Herro talks since he is under contract with them.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Man you just want to argue about everything. Maybe they knew we'd put more in but not enough to close the gap on what Miami was witholding and they just said "**** em". Portland cutting off Miami would end the Herro talks since he is under contract with them.
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Yes, we know what Miami offered and we know what Portland got from Milwaukee, so we can safely say Utah was not willing yo out much draft compensation in.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Guys Jrue is too old for us... He's a wonderful person by all accounts but I get the feeling he may play out the next two years and bounce. Dude is a family man and I don't necessarily see him keeping it going for the next 3-5 years cuz he has a life outside of basketball. Could be wrong.
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I've heard he's talked about retiring after his current contract is over. It doesn't seem likely to me that he leaves that much money on the table, but I guess I don't know that much about him.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yes, we know what Miami offered and we know what Portland got from Milwaukee, so we can safely say Utah was not willing yo out much draft compensation in.
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I don't mean this in bad way, I promise... but you're neurodivergent, right? I always suspected this was the case, but after taking some time off and then returning with some fresh eyes, it seems a bit clearer.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
My good hell the Heat tears are just wonderfully bitter. If I hear one more team say "they weren't going to bid against themselves". MFer there are 28 teams besides the team you are trading with... you are NEVER bidding against yourself in a trade.

Digging in your heels is fine... but you dug in your heels to keep (checks the roster) Jaime Jaquez and Nikola Jovic and maybe Caleb Martin. This ain't like Morey asking for 12 unprotected picks and you telling him to eff off. Be genuine and come at your trade partner with a full offer and trying to work together rather than the slicked back "kiss the ring" style approach.
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So you're saying... Miami wasn't being genuine and was only offering garbage?


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Handlogten's Heros said:
My good hell the Heat tears are just wonderfully bitter. If I hear one more team say "they weren't going to bid against themselves". MFer there are 28 teams besides the team you are trading with... you are NEVER bidding against yourself in a trade.

Digging in your heels is fine... but you dug in your heels to keep (checks the roster) Jaime Jaquez and Nikola Jovic and maybe Caleb Martin. This ain't like Morey asking for 12 unprotected picks and you telling him to eff off. Be genuine and come at your trade partner with a full offer and trying to work together rather than the slicked back "kiss the ring" style approach.
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I give credit to Portland for not caving to Dame and the Heat. Good for them.
 
MT Steve said:
So you're saying... Miami wasn't being genuine and was only offering garbage?


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Hey my bad... sometimes I am wrong but the sentiment iirc is that Miami can't make a good offer. IF they actually came to the table with what they could it is going to be similar to what they got or better. Right now they have 1 first, some swaps, and a vet they should flip for good stuff... and Ayton (they were getting him in any iteration). As of right now I would project it to be lighter than the offer Miami could have cobbled together.

I was also wrong in that I thought Dame, Cronin, Blazers, Heat all kinda colluded and knew it was best for all if they moved on and needed to make a bit of a show about it. Its clear Blazers were pissed about the approach by Dame or the Heat or both. Trying to drive a hard bargain over Jovic, Jaquez, and Martin may be penny-wise and pound-foolish.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
My good hell the Heat tears are just wonderfully bitter. If I hear one more team say "they weren't going to bid against themselves". MFer there are 28 teams besides the team you are trading with... you are NEVER bidding against yourself in a trade.

Digging in your heels is fine... but you dug in your heels to keep (checks the roster) Jaime Jaquez and Nikola Jovic and maybe Caleb Martin. This ain't like Morey asking for 12 unprotected picks and you telling him to eff off. Be genuine and come at your trade partner with a full offer and trying to work together rather than the slicked back "kiss the ring" style approach.
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The ring is on a losing streak. League gonna step in and make new rules to prevent the proposed kissers from taking advantage of the ring. It really isn’t fair for them to not kiss the ring.
 
My prediction is some sort of Clips/Philly/Blazers three team deal where Philly and Clips both give a first to the Blazers and Clips get Harden and Philly gets Jrue. Clips send their glut of expiring contracts. If you get three far out picks from three different teams all in extreme win-now mode then the deal has upside where it lacks volume.
 
Damn... DA trade Don for 3 firsts, Lauri, Sexton, and a guy selected late lotto (ochai) plus all the swaps. Dame went for Jrue/1 first/swaps... I think inflation is dead.
 
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