Dante Exum re-signed

[Ron Mexico]

LOL, so when comparing this year 3 pt shooting I am told to look at career stats lol... when comparing their career advanced stats I am told to look at this season ( 14 games ) stats. Can we stop cherry picking to make Exum look better than he is? Andrea Bargnani once had 14 game stretch where his stats were better than Lebron... where is he now?

You sure dragging someone else's argument into this. I didn't say anything about his 3 point shooting.

I am looking at his most current play. His 3 point shot sucked post shoulder injury. I have reasons to believe it will improve and think he can be a decent open 3 point shooter but Peyton is currently better at that.

 

[MVP]

Even if we compare last season 14 games of Exum vs 63 games of Payton per 36 min - Payton had better FG%, better 3pt%, more ast, more reb, more steals. Exum beats him in FT%, blocks and pts with higher usage rate. Please explain to me how is this better. BTW Payton had two triple doubles after trade to SUNS... not that it is some super important stat but it shows how much more versatile player he is compared to Exum.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Even if we compare last season 14 games of Exum vs 63 games of Payton per 36 min - Payton had better FG%, better 3pt%, more ast, more reb, more steals. Exum beats him in FT%, blocks and pts. Please explain to me how is this better.

I just showed you where he was better. Yes, some of Peyton's stats are better.

It's fine if you think his play wasn't sustainable and a fluke but it was still very good play. I think its just the tip of what we will see, so does the Jazz. Hence why they paid him..

 

[Deleted member 95]

Shame on whoever corrected Dante Rxum.

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[FalseFlagg K]

Even if we compare last season 14 games of Exum vs 63 games of Payton per 36 min - Payton had better FG%, better 3pt%, more ast, more reb, more steals. Exum beats him in FT%, blocks and pts with higher usage rate. Please explain to me how is this better. BTW Payton had two triple doubles after trade to SUNS... not that it is some super important stat but it shows how much more versatile player he is compared to Exum.

dude Peyton hasn't done anything in any kind of meaningful game. The Suns let him go lol A triple double for the Suns in the second half of last seasons means zero.

Exum's good play is a very small sample so far but he can clearly perform at a waaaay higher level than this floppy haired goofy mofo. His salary is an overpay initially but won't be for long. Don't forget the Jazz have had no qualms about moving on from those they think won't / can't cut it. Clearly they see a very good player in the future.

 

[Crawlnstall]

I havent read through this whole thread, but overall I like this deal. Is it a bit much? Yeah, I'd say so. But its not a huge overpay and let's remember, this kid is a defensive stopper. With all the elite guards in the league this dude is needed. Didnt he nullify Harden in the playoffs whenever he guarded him this year? That's huge

 

[silesian]

I see the odds of Simmons getting a "good" 3 pt shot in the next 3 years being about as likely as a foot of snow in Hawaii in that same time span.

Snow in Hawaii is 100% sure thing. May not be a foot, but if it is, man the Sixers are going to be awesome.

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/snow-hawaiis-mauna-kea-mauna-loa-volcanoes/

 

[jope]

I havent read through this whole thread, but overall I like this deal. Is it a bit much? Yeah, I'd say so. But its not a huge overpay and let's remember, this kid is a defensive stopper. With all the elite guards in the league this dude is needed. Didnt he nullify Harden in the playoffs whenever he guarded him this year? That's huge

Exum had the worst dbpm on the team in the playoffs this year. Not only that, He had an ortg of 91 and a drtg of 112. Those are really bad numbers. I wouldn’t cite his playoff performance as evidence of his “eliteness”.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Exum had the worst dbpm on the team in the playoffs this year. Not only that, He had an ortg of 91 and a drtg of 112. Those are really bad numbers. I wouldn’t cite his playoff performance as evidence of his “eliteness”.

Where did you get those ortg and drtg from? Basketball reference had him at 110 ortg and 106 drtg. NBA.com, which is the most accurate had him as the best on the Jazz at 109.3 ortg and 4th best host behind Gobert and just ahead of Mitchell 98.9 drtg. That gives him the best net rating on our team this year.

Edit nm you are posting playoff stats. He was 108 and 116 in the playoffs. But that is pretty low minutes to try and draw that many conclusions from offensive and defensive ratings.

He did lock down harden better than anyone has in the NBA for a stretch. Harden tried to challenge him and failed multiple times before calling for picks to help switch him off. Harden preferred Mitchell guarding him and anyone else.

 

[FalseFlagg K]

Exum had the worst dbpm on the team in the playoffs this year. Not only that, He had an ortg of 91 and a drtg of 112. Those are really bad numbers. I wouldn’t cite his playoff performance as evidence of his “eliteness”.

ah i think you might want to check your stats again dude. According to NBA.com his ORTG was 109.3 and DRTG 98.9 in the regular season and in the playoffs (in a very small sample size 11 mpg) ORTG 107.9 and DRTG 116

stats schmats Anyone with 2 eyes can see what his potential is and the trend of his numbers even with the injuries is very much headed in the right direction (aside from the 3 pt% - that is a little concerning)

 

[jope]

Where did you get those ortg and drtg from? Basketball reference had him at 110 ortg and 106 drtg. NBA.com, which is the most accurate had him as the best on the Jazz at 109.3 ortg and 4th best host behind Gobert and just ahead of Mitchell 98.9 drtg. That gives him the best net rating on our team this year.

Edit nm you are posting playoff stats. He was 108 and 116 in the playoffs. But that is pretty low minutes to try and draw that many conclusions from offensive and defensive ratings.

He did lock down harden better than anyone has in the NBA for a stretch. Harden tried to challenge him and failed multiple times before calling for picks to help switch him off. Harden preferred Mitchell guarding him and anyone else.

Basketball reference... and no he wasn’t. He was exactly what I said he was. Screenshot attached.

 

[jope]

ah i think you might want to check your stats again dude. According to NBA.com his ORTG was 109.3 and DRTG 98.9 in the regular season and in the playoffs (in a very small sample size 11 mpg) ORTG 107.9 and DRTG 116

stats schmats Anyone with 2 eyes can see what his potential is and the trend of his numbers even with the injuries is very much headed in the right direction (aside from the 3 pt% - that is a little concerning)

I attached my screenshot. You attach yours lol.

Lots of guys have potential. Lots of guys never reach it either because they can’t put it together. We outbid ourselves to get this guy for more than we had to. Hope it works out but I have my doubts.