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David Locke - Utah Jazz are NOT tanking

HermanG said:
Yeah I also hope we get a good draft pick. Even better if it comes from Minny... but picking at 11-16 range can still help us find guys who Hardy can turn into gold. Would be better to get something like 7-10 range of course but I'm not hating these wins.

Also lets keep in mind that if we get to the playoffs and especially if we upset some top seeded team... the value of some of our guys is gonna skyrocket and we will be a much more appealing FA destination than if we are 12th in the West.
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We will be a free agent destination because we'll have money. I don't think Utah will ever be truly appealing to most NBA free agents.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
We will be a free agent destination because we'll have money. I don't think Utah will ever be truly appealing to most NBA free agents.
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Not as a tourist site... and its true that money is the biggest thing in FA. But some players want to win and use that as one criteria to choose their next team from all applicants. Those are the guys I want, over the Mr. Krabs type FAs.
 
HermanG said:
Not as a tourist site... and its true that money is the biggest thing in FA. But some players want to win and use that as one criteria to choose their next team from all applicants. Those are the guys I want, over the Mr. Krabs type FAs.
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The Jazz have had really good teams in the past and have never really attracted free agents.
 
HermanG said:
Not as a tourist site... and its true that money is the biggest thing in FA. But some players want to win and use that as one criteria to choose their next team from all applicants. Those are the guys I want, over the Mr. Krabs type FAs.
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Mr Krabs type FAs lol.
 
HermanG said:
Yeah I also hope we get a good draft pick. Even better if it comes from Minny... but picking at 11-16 range can still help us find guys who Hardy can turn into gold. Would be better to get something like 7-10 range of course but I'm not hating these wins.

Also lets keep in mind that if we get to the playoffs and especially if we upset some top seeded team... the value of some of our guys is gonna skyrocket and we will be a much more appealing FA destination than if we are 12th in the West.
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If we make the playoffs the value of some our guys is not going to skyrocket and we will not be much more appealing as a free agent destination. It just doesn't work like that. A free agent will come here because of the money and the fit that management sells them. Also a lot of the time making the playoffs can have a detrimental impact on a young team because it gives management a false sense of urgency and they make shortsighted moves. We are benefiting from one right now with the wolves.
 
HermanG said:
True, but I think the current players we got may be more appealing to play with than some of the other iterations.

No ballhogs, no divas, great locker room spirit and we play freaking beautiful ball.
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I think one appealing thing right now is we do not have a ball-dominant star, and mostly we have always had one of those. Unless it is for a prestige franchise, most star-level players who are ready to move want to go somewhere they can be the #1. No one wanted to come and be the 3rd wheel with Gobert and Mitchell, which is why we ended up with Conley basically. But with our current iteration we have the best mix possible of solid role players and budding stars without anyone being particularly ball-dominant into which a star player wanting to make a name would fit in very nicely. I could see a Jalen Brown-type player being very interested in coming here to be the #1, with the ball in his hands a lot more, and Lauri as Robin to his Batman.
 
HermanG said:
True, but I think the current players we got may be more appealing to play with than some of the other iterations.

No ballhogs, no divas, great locker room spirit and we play freaking beautiful ball.
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Those positives can flip in a second once expectations become involved. Remember when Donovan wasn't a diva and then the flip switched and his ego became massive.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I think one appealing thing right now is we do not have a ball-dominant star, and mostly we have always had one of those. Unless it is for a prestige franchise, most star-level players who are ready to move want to go somewhere they can be the #1. No one wanted to come and be the 3rd wheel with Gobert and Mitchell, which is why we ended up with Conley basically. But with our current iteration we have the best mix possible of solid role players and budding stars without anyone being particularly ball-dominant into which a star player wanting to make a name would fit in very nicely. I could see a Jalen Brown-type player being very interested in coming here to be the #1, with the ball in his hands a lot more, and Lauri as Robin to his Batman.
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Exactly my thoughts. We can sell a very legit chance to #1 spot to anyone at this point... and Lauri can still thrive and put up 30 PPG next to anyone basically.
 
sip said:
If we make the playoffs the value of some our guys is not going to skyrocket and we will not be much more appealing as a free agent destination. It just doesn't work like that. A free agent will come here because of the money and the fit that management sells them. Also a lot of the time making the playoffs can have a detrimental impact on a young team because it gives management a false sense of urgency and they make shortsighted moves. We are benefiting from one right now with the wolves.
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sip said:
Those positives can flip in a second once expectations become involved. Remember when Donovan wasn't a diva and then the flip switched and his ego became massive.
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You can choose to take the most negative stance on everything all you want. But I dont see why you are trying to start a discussion with the glass half-full guy.... these things dont end well.
 
Agent#00 said:
Reminds me of Deron who tried to recruit his Olympics teammates and nobody came.
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I do wonder though if we had the cap space to sign a star at that time though. Since by the time D will was an olympic caliber player we were paying huge money to AK, Memo, D will, and Boozer. Im thinking we couldn't have paid his olympics teammates and that might be a reason why they didn't come.
 
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