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Deal reached with Iran on Nuclear program

LogGrad98 said:
Obviously the issue is not suppressing Iran through limiting their means of generating electricity. Obviously the concern is their supposed propensity for violence and the fear they would have no qualms in using a nuclear device in the international relations equivalent of keeping the neighbor's dog from barking.

I think there should be no international sanctions. Population control at it's most spectacular.
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To me sanctions are like locking your girlfriends cat in the closet without food and water and telling her you aren't going to let it out until she agrees to give you a BJ.

Never been able to understand why starving a nation's women and children is seen as the humanitarian solution.
 
Gameface said:
Never been able to understand why starving a nation's women and children is seen as the humanitarian solution.
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I agree. I guess it could be argued that this is necessary--that starving women and children and crashing a whole people's economy is justified to stop a much-worse scenario of Iran getting a nuclear weapon and avoiding a war. But I'm uncomfortable with us bragging/celebrating it. The media and politicians brag about successfully tanking the Iranian currency? Doesn't seem like something we should be celebrating.

We shouldn't punish the people for their dictators. We shouldn't make a habit of restricting aid to North Korea just because they're ruled by the contemporary king Joffery. We shouldn't embargo Cuba because we don't like the Castros.
 
ElRoach0 said:
It was a joke, but pretty close to what's actually in play.

The argument from those with power is that other countries aren't evolved enough to handle the responsibility of nuclear power.

It's kind of stupid.. we've got this great way of getting energy and we horde it for ourselves stating the rest of the world just isn't ready.
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Wrong.
Many countries that have agreed to not build nukes under the non proliferation treaty have nuclear power plants.(think Japan) We actually agree to aid in the peaceful uses of radioactive materials(medical power) as long as they don't build weapons.
 
Also the history and rhetoric of a country has to come into play. I am not open to Iran having nuclear tech but I would be open to Brazil or Singapore (for example) having it.
 
Stoked said:
Also the history and rhetoric of a country has to come into play. I am not open to Iran having nuclear tech but I would be open to Brazil or Singapore (for example) having it.
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I get where you are coming from but we signed a treaty and according to the constitution treaties are the supreme law of the land. If Iran wants peaceful nuclear power we are bound by our own laws and international laws to allow them to develop it. However, we do have every right to demand transparency and they are responsible to prove that it is indeed peaceful.
 
The flip side is the India Pakistan situation. We were unable to get them on board with the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty and they both developed Nuclear weapons. :(
 
Gameface said:
To me sanctions are like locking your girlfriends cat in the closet without food and water and telling her you aren't going to let it out until she agrees to give you a BJ.
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I can't tell you how many times this worked for me.

Oh, just subsitute the word cat with child.
 
One Brow said:
If there is sufficient verification in place for thise to be established, I have trouble seeing any harm from this deal.
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Iran's nuclear facilities are subject to daily inspections. And the agreement is only valid for 6 months with the understanding they'll get together to negotiate a larger settlement. If neither side likes how it went, they can walk away and go back to square one.

All for loosening up a few billion in frozen assets. Very little to bitch about here.
 
maybe I should have said "//// thread ////" when I said how good this thread was going. . . . before we went all Jeffrey Daumer on JazzFanzz.
 
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