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Game Thread Dec 15, 2025 07:00PM MT: Dallas Mavericks @ Utah Jazz

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All I’ve been saying.

Also Dallas without AD is *** and I told y’all.

At some point we may have to pay for our quarter season of F’ing around an go to the extremes like DAL did tonight with Davis. Or maybe our young guys are actually just too good to tank. Both are fine. Either way this should have started day 1.

I still think odds at top 4 and keeping the pick are vital to our future, but if we’re going to lose it, it better be because our young guys are too good.
 
Even if it’s just as a backup, I think Flip’s long term role is as a 5. His skill is just so much more valuable. Nothing interesting about him at the 4.
 
Beyond parody. Literally why are you even following the team at this point if this is your reaction.
The answer was just one post later, holy crap!
At some point we may have to pay for our quarter season of F’ing around an go to the extremes like DAL did tonight with Davis. Or maybe our young guys are actually just too good to tank. Both are fine. Either way this should have started day 1.

I still think odds at top 4 and keeping the pick are vital to our future, but if we’re going to lose it, it better be because our young guys are too good.


Imagine that but some fans don't want to watch a team languish in the *****er for decades on end, imagine that! Can you believe that some fans have a different opinion on what being a fan means than you do? I know, I can't believe it either. Downright shocking.
 
The answer was just one post later, holy crap!



Imagine that but some fans don't want to watch a team languish in the *****er for decades on end, imagine that! Can you believe that some fans have a different opinion on what being a fan means than you do? I know, I can't believe it either. Downright shocking.
If you wanna crash out over it go right ahead. It’s just weird and kind of sad is all.
 
What a game. What a W.

Lauri, Key and Flip overcame a FO tanking effort so monumental, so cynical, so blatant that it had to be seen to be believed. It really sucks that they're being put into this position. It's insulting.

I half expected Hardy to roll out an overtime lineup that included a ball boy and the Jazz Bear. But it was worse – he went with Collier and Cody. Ridiculous. It was a damn miracle that our actual NBA players got anything done with those two out there. Shenanigans.

Make no mistake – we tried HARD to lose this one. But our best players are just too good. Why can't we just accept that already?

Random player thoughts:

- Keyonte scored 37 (fantastic) and gave up about 60 at the other end whjle collecting a -5 for the game (excruciating). It was fitting that the game literally started with a matador defensive possession by him. Probably his softest, laziest performance of the season on that side of the ball. Key trying to guard Flagg was a sad spectacle. He was completely embarrassed. I get that he's smaller, but there's no excuse for him not staying in front of Flagg at the perimeter in straight up 1-on-1 situations.

- Ace vs. Flagg was just brutal. Bailey had one rebound in 24 minutes. That is not going to cut it against a team that wasn't even playing AD. Ace needs to get a lot tougher. He looked like a boy, Flagg looked like a man.

- Cody showed some shocking signs of life for about two minutes and... I don't even know what happened then. It's like he suddenly remembered that he's Cody.

- Lauri was awesome when it mattered. He didn't have his shot all game but simply refused to give in to the tank. 33/14/5/4/1. Anyone who can't enjoy this type of performance in a win is a lost cause. This guy is one of the hardest workers in the league.

- Great game by Flip too. Whenever he plays within himself and doesn't force risky passes, I really like his game.

- Collier and Clayton are not rotation point guards in the NBA. Zero offense, brainfart after brainfart after brainfart. Both of them are in danger of being out of the league after their rookie contracts.

To sum it up: "The young guys" (meaning the ones you play to tank) didn't win this one for us. We tried to lose but Lauri and Keyonte, with important support from Flip, told Nepo & co to **** off.
 
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Very good game by jazz. I love the interaction between keynote and Kevin love. And keynote being very vocal on the bench was nice. He's becoming the leader of the group. Flagg otoh is on another level. Dude looks really big with handles. Imagine if we had Flagg, key, Lauri, Kessler, flip.
 
What a game. What a W.

Lauri, Key and Flip overcame a FO tanking effort so monumental, so cynical, so blatant that it had to be seen to be believed. It really sucks that they're being put into this position. It's insulting.

I half expected Hardy to roll out an overtime lineup that included a ball boy and the Jazz Bear. But it was worse – he went with Collier and Cody. Ridiculous. It was a damn miracle that our actual NBA players got anything done with those two out there. Shenanigans.

Make no mistake – we tried HARD to lose this one. But our best players are just too good. Why can't we just accept that already?

Random player thoughts:

- Keyonte scored 37 (fantastic) and gave up about 60 at the other end whjle collecting a -5 for the game (excruciating). It was fitting that the game literally started with a matador defensive possession by him. Probably his softest, laziest performance of the season on that side of the ball. Key trying to guard Flagg was a sad spectacle. He was completely embarrassed. I get that he's smaller, but there's no excuse for him not staying in front of Flagg at the perimeter in straight up 1-on-1 situations.

- Ace vs. Flagg was just brutal. Bailey had one rebound in 24 minutes. That is not going to cut it against a team that wasn't even playing AD. Ace needs to get a lot tougher. He looked like a boy, Flagg looked like a man.

- Cody showed some shocking signs of life for about two minutes and... I don't even know what happened then. It's like he suddenly remembered that he's Cody.

- Lauri was awesome when it mattered. He didn't have his shot all game but simply refused to give in to the tank. 33/14/5/4/1. Anyone who can't enjoy this type of performance in a win is a lost cause. This guy is one of the hardest workers in the league.

- Great game by Flip too. Whenever he plays within himself and doesn't force risky passes, I really like his game.

- Collier and Clayton are not rotation point guards in the NBA. Zero offense, brainfart after brainfart after brainfart. Both of them are in danger of being out of the league after their rookie contracts.

To sum it up: "The young guys" (meaning the ones you play to tank) didn't win this one for us. We tried to lose but Lauri and Keyonte, with important support from Flip, told Nepo & co to **** off.
Flagg looking so mid, amiright??
 
What a game. What a W.

Lauri, Key and Flip overcame a FO tanking effort so monumental, so cynical, so blatant that it had to be seen to be believed. It really sucks that they're being put into this position. It's insulting.

I half expected Hardy to roll out an overtime lineup that included a ball boy and the Jazz Bear. But it was worse – he went with Collier and Cody. Ridiculous. It was a damn miracle that our actual NBA players got anything done with those two out there. Shenanigans.

Make no mistake – we tried HARD to lose this one. But our best players are just too good. Why can't we just accept that already?
Lauri is an all nba level player that wants to be here.

It’s time to build a roster Ainge.
 
As good as the Jazz appear to be playing the Jazz simply cannot give away their top 8 pick
That pick could be a franchise type player when added to this roster could make Jazz a possible contender
 
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