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Of course this current record/playoff seeding Sloany is referring to has absolutely nothing to do with the change of wing players in the off season (and no Memo).
Deron/Memo/Boozer or Deron/Jefferson/Millsap
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//r00t 4 Jazz
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Good point on Booz's first 2yrs on the team.
gregbroncs
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Exactly. To him it's all about Boozer. But losing Mathews and Memo has hurt far more than changing Boozer out for Al.
Essentially. The changing of Boozer and Jefferson has been moot at best.
Fishsticks
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Yep if we had Boozer we woud still stink. The game of basketball requires shooters, pretty much the concept of the game right? Get the ball in the hole. Well we let 2 great shooters leave and the other will never play another meaningful minute the rest of his career. We are stuck with Miles who is not really a shooter as much as he is a chucker and dwill. A trade for a shooter, maybe two, would be huge and make this team very potent.
vslice02
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Deron/Memo/Boozer.
Memo's ability to stretch the floor opened up the lane for everyone - from Deron to Boozer to Brewer (52% shooter off dunks and layups).
Boozer's pick-and-roll ability gave Deron a myriad of options coming off the screen and got Memo alot of open looks from deep. Both Memo and Boozer were great passers from both the high-post and low-post - which allowed Utah's offense to flow beautifully. Memo/Boozer were vastly superior offensively to the Al/Sap combo - and I think that offensive difference is larger than the defensive advantage Sap/Al have. Memo was also one of the more clutch players in recent Jazz history, and Boozer had several clutch moments in the playoffs as well.
The big advantage I give Sap&Al is their ability to stay healthy - because 2/3 years they faced the Lakers Memo was hurt - although the one year Utah did face the Lakers at full-strength they were one shot and an LA ref screwjob away from winning that series.
If Al learns to pass and Millsap can prove to be a starter w/out wearing down midway through the season then maybe in a few years things change - but until that happens I'd give Boozer/Memo the advantage.
Memo's ability to stretch the floor opened up the lane for everyone - from Deron to Boozer to Brewer (52% shooter off dunks and layups).
Boozer's pick-and-roll ability gave Deron a myriad of options coming off the screen and got Memo alot of open looks from deep. Both Memo and Boozer were great passers from both the high-post and low-post - which allowed Utah's offense to flow beautifully. Memo/Boozer were vastly superior offensively to the Al/Sap combo - and I think that offensive difference is larger than the defensive advantage Sap/Al have. Memo was also one of the more clutch players in recent Jazz history, and Boozer had several clutch moments in the playoffs as well.
The big advantage I give Sap&Al is their ability to stay healthy - because 2/3 years they faced the Lakers Memo was hurt - although the one year Utah did face the Lakers at full-strength they were one shot and an LA ref screwjob away from winning that series.
If Al learns to pass and Millsap can prove to be a starter w/out wearing down midway through the season then maybe in a few years things change - but until that happens I'd give Boozer/Memo the advantage.
Sloanfeld
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I'm not even going to address the deficiencies in the other posts in this topic, it's just nice to see someone can make sense besides myself.
And Memo is a much better defender than most of you clowns give him credit for. It's his help defense that sucks but he's a way better man defender against opposing centers than Jeffersuck could ever dream of being. You morons see me and automatically think Boozer, get ****ing real. And LOL @ the posters who compared a rookie Deron to a sixth year all-star.
Oh wait, I forgot, Memo doesn't block as much so he's automatically garbage. Sorry, I forgot about the logic that most of you fools use.
D Will> CP3
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Why do you hate on Big Al? Right now, he is playing like our best player by far
Sloanfeld
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Nope, although I'm getting sick of making you people look like fools.
Marty McFly
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Where did this notion come from that Memo is a good man to man defender? Because he held Yao to 25 ppg in the playoffs that one season (AKA his average)?
Memo gets torched all the time and can't play D without fouling. Face the facts.
Memo gets torched all the time and can't play D without fouling. Face the facts.
D Will> CP3
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When has Memo been good at man to man D? His mobility on D was so bad and will be even worse when he returns